It is endlessly frustrating that companies have universally decided that they won’t let people say “no” to stuff, ever. There are no longer options to reject stupid-ass new “features”, only postponement until next time you open the app/website/program. They’ll continue pestering you for the rest of your life. I realize that my frustration may be a little over-zealous, but we deal with these interfaces dozens of times per day and this is user hostile behavior. There isn’t really an option to just use another service or program, since the entire technology landscape has been commandeered by a few major corporations, and they all enact the same shitty things as a group.

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    THANK YOU. I’m glad others are noticing this and getting fed up with it.

    No means no, damnit.

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    I don’t think that you’re being overzealous. Far from that - even the phrasing rubs me the wrong way; it conveys "you’re something fooling itself that it has a choice. You don’t - you aren’t a rational human being, you’re a user. Do as you’re being ordered to. The continued pestering adds “You’ll be bossed around until you learn to obey.” to the insult.

    On a lighter side I agree with Grouchy that you have options. I think that we should start giving those companies the middle finger. And frankly I think that we’re better off doing so for other reasons - the data vultures love this sort of “non-confrontational on surface, but bossy upon analysis” discourse.

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    “Do you want to try the new Lemmy™ Story Experience? Click here or remind us now to keep reminding you until you finally cave to our humungous data-hoovering tentacles, puny little user.”

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    You should be pissed off! It’s software paternalism, utilizing new speak, removing your vocabulary and agency.

    Every time you’re given a dark pattern dialogue where it says " would you like this thing that you don’t like? Yes absolutely, later " the developers don’t respect you, they’re trying to say you don’t know what you want, they’re using propaganda on you…

    It’s like the classic police interrogation question " is that when you stopped beating your wife?" Yes and no are both traps. So some edgy developer is trying to trap you with oh but you consented (can send it) to seeing this later. When it’s really user hostile dark patterns using forced language to remove your agency as a human being. It’s fucking scummy

    This is why I love open source software, not only is it highly unlikely for you to see a dark pattern, if you do you can fix it!

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    Microsoft: “Please use Edge!”

    Me: “No thanks!”

    Microsoft, 6 months later: “Please use Edge!”

    Me: “No, thanks.”

    Microsoft, when I visit Bing: “Please use Edge.”

    Me: “No. Thanks.”

    Microsoft, when I open Outlook: “We will be opening links in Edge instead of your default browser. To switch back, go to your preferences.”

    Me: “Motherfucker, I think we have a difference in viewpoints.”

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      Yep, super annoying and you will get the same thing, but for Chrome, when hitting Google sites in Edge or Firefox.

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    Start holding a grudge against all companies that don’t deserve your respect. If they clearly violate your trust, that bridge just got instantly burned to ashes, and there are no seconds chances.

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    It’s just like those stupid GDPR cookie popups. They’re all different, and I can’t think of anyone who would ever want to select some cookies and not others, people either are okay with it or they want none of them, yet few sites offer a “no to all” option, and most push the boundaries of what’s allowed under the law.

    At least this popup usually isn’t there the next time I visit, but there’s just so many sites that I keep getting them multiple times a day, so it feels just like what you’re talking about.

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      and most push the boundaries of what’s allowed under the law.

      I worked for a company that wanted me to load all of their analytics stuff, which drops a shit ton of cookies, before the GDPR consent. I told them that is illegal in the EU and they said the legal department already approved it. I’m not an attorney or a GDPR expert, but it seemed to me that the big companies have already found loopholes around GDPR to get the data that they want. I don’t work there anymore.

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      lmao. Even after disabling toggles, they got choices like:

      • Save my preferences (grayed out) - as much invisible as possible
      • Accept (bigger and in blue background) - feels like it will accept based on my choices
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        That asshole design works on me tho. I misclicked a couple of times and thus “consented” to the tracking. Should be illegal imo.

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    What app or tech is badgering you? I feel like with standard android and pop! OS I have zero complaints. Everything just works

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    Nowadays it’s even in cars. When service is due, my car offers me to call service desk to schedule an appointment now or later. To get rid of this message, I need to make the call just to tell the person on the other side that this is a company car, I’m not the owner, and service is being scheduled by the leasing company through other means anyway.

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      Usually Fleet Management companies want you to do an Oil Change and Tire Rotation every 5000mi. So… Yeah.

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    The tech market slowing after the end of Covid really showed these greedy fucks for who they are. Profits dropped and they all pulled out the enshittification dial for a big old twist.

    Like, can’t you just deal with being slightly less insanely rich for a few minutes?

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      They are legally obliged to, lmao. After companies become public, they have to maximize profits, if not, shareholders can simply vote to fire whomever they want. Look at every company on earth. They all with the same road. from facebook, google, to soon-to-be-public reddit.

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        “Fun” fact, Facebook isn’t a good example here because Zuckerberg has his shares structured so he has full control.

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    No, YouTube. NO. I will NEVER, EVER want YouTube Premium. Stop asking me about it every fucking time I watch a video.

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        Because they irritate people into getting it. You wouldn’t have it if they didnt turn features off and increase ads until you wanted it.

        Fuck google

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          I heard it’s one of the better ways to support YouTube creators. That’s why I got it.

          I have adblockers and a pihole so ads weren’t that bad anyway.