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This is the thing I love the most about the younger generations now.
- Boomers: If you don’t like it do something about it
- Gen-X: nah we’re too nihilistic
- Millennials: sorry we’re too busy trying to survive on the scraps you left us
- Boomers: that’s what I thought
Now:
- Boomers: If you don’t like it do something about it
- Gen-Z/Alpha: okay!
- Boomers: no, not like that!
The kids are alright
Millennials are also protesting. Did you forget all the protests in the 2000s and 2010s? It’s not like we stopped either.
As millenials I think the best thing we can do for the later generations is to just take a back seat. Thanks to boomers our generation has never held political power, and if we accept that and immediately pass to the younger gens instead of trying to make up for lost time I think we will leave them in a better spot.
As an almost 40 year old, nahh, we aren’t skipping 2 generations to give the power to zoomers just because some rich kids are protesting.
We protested too. Don’t forget that.
Definitely not - the boomers are finally on the way out. The boomers have held on way past their time, and we can’t afford to let Gen X have a turn… They’re the ones who need to take a back seat - they’re nearing retirement age if they haven’t hit that point already, millennials are in our 30s and 40s
We need to support and join together with the younger generations. We might not be as young as we used to be, but we’re prime age to start taking office and organizing/enabling
We Gen x have been practicing taking a back seat our entire lives. As a generation we still don’t outnumber the boomers. Or we just crossed them on the graph. Pre covid we were supposed to finally cross around 2027. Covid might have skewed the projections. Kind of explains why we are the way we are. Never could do fuck all unless the boomers also wanted it.
And now the millennials are the largest group. Yall got the numbers. Use ‘em.
You guys really are the forgotten generation… My dad claimed to be a millennial the other day, because he forgot there was something in between us and boomers
Millennials were told “put in your time, and eventually it’ll be your turn”, but we learned early on that “doing everything right” wasn’t going to get us anywhere.
I feel like a lot of gen X are hanging onto that like a lifeline (not nearly all of course, there’s plenty who don’t drink the Kool aid, and took me aside to lay out the truth early). Like despite how only the lucky ones came out ahead, it seems like there’s this fear of any change, like it’d tear away what little they’ve managed to hang on to
Maybe it’s because it wasn’t entirely a lie for the first half of gen x’s career, maybe it’s because most of the changes did tear more and more out of reach… Or maybe it’s just bias since most of my older family did come out ahead and that led me to find friends with similar life experiences
Granted, I’ve found older millennials tend to be just as dogmatic if they got ahead, generations are just such broad ranges
What’s your take?
I don’t know about the 1/2 half of Gen x careers being necessarily easier. I’m older Gen x born a few years after the generally accepted start for that era.
As a teenager and a young adult I saw that the structures that the silent and boomer generations set up and relied upon weren’t going to be there for me as a senior. Pensions being removed as employment benefits. the GOP demonizing social security and Medicare and underfunding the programs. Graduated from college in a white collar depression. Went though the same multiple crisis that the millennials did, just at a later phase of my life and career development. About the only real advantage my generation had was to be the right age bracket to catch the early internet boom. But also at the right age to catch the outsourcing to China / India boom.
I guess my point is that all the signs were there all along my life of the coming disruptions. I had the right combination of luck factors. Good stable childhood home. Enough food. Decent public schools despite moving as much as I did. Parents that paid for college. No physical or mental issues that prevented me from attacking a career path. Low inflation for most of those years. I did (and do) okay. I’ve helped myself now because I was pretty pessimistic about my future years.
It’s clear to me now we need systemic changes. I had hoped COVID would smack us around enough to give momentum to pivot as a society. But nope! It seems the divisions and right wing political extremism is even worse now. I don’t know where the impetus is going to come from now. For sure it can’t come only from Gen x. We don’t have the numbers. And enough of my generation have fallen down the MAGA cult black hole.
Do you know who isn’t thinking that way?
The millennial conservatives, right-libertarians, neoliberals, and fascists.
See also: “if you care so much about Palestine, why don’t you go there and help out yourself?”
IDF specifically targets aid workers, journalists and healthcare workers
Transcribed accurately (thank you to [email protected] for correcting my earlier attempt):
Thembo
@OnlyAWorldAwayLiberals: oh you care about palestine? stop tweeting and do something
*people organize nation-wide protests and actions at great personal risk*
Liberals: you swine. i hope the police beat you into a fine red paste. i hope they come after your families. how dare you
why does everyone lowkey suck at transcription in here lol.
no hate just confused.small hate? your claims that this is a “transcription” is deceptive and disingenuous to those reliant on alt text and screen readers.actually 100% accurate transcript as follows:
Thembo
@OnlyAWorldAwayLiberals: oh you care about palestine? stop tweeting and do something
*people organize nation-wide protests and actions at great personal risk*
Liberals: you swine. i hope the police beat you into a fine red paste. i hope they come after your families. how dare you
Thank you for this, updated my comment. I totally deserve a small bit of hate here because that was a disservice to people who need alt text and screen readers, but for whatever it’s worth a) learning to format things properly for screen readers is just something I still need to learn (and if you could point me towards a good resource for that I would definitely be interested), b) I was reacting to a comment that had been in here earlier (seems to have since been removed) that was claiming to be a transcription but changed the actual text of the OP, so I really just wanted to get something more accurate in here, but I should have said that was my best attempt at a transcription instead of just saying it was one.
fair lol. you had added the word “lib” in, same as the deleted comment, which was my main problem. cheers
db0 isn’t holding back for the lemmy libs and I’m here for it
I have to say I’ve really liked this community when I’ve seen it pop up. Some good lefty stuff without falling into supporting tankies like certain other instances claiming to be leftist do.
So its people with a liberal mindset that oppose the protests? This is news to me.
Why would it be? Liberals love the status quo, which includes Zionism. Leftists oppose the status quo.
You’re on Lefty Memes, not Righty Memes.
I think you’ve misunderstood something
No, I don’t think they have. Socialists just disagree with liberals that liberalism is “left” or “progressive”.
What do you believe I have misunderstood? That’s kind of condescending, don’t you think?
Only the wacky super far left definition of “liberal”.
“Moderates” might be a better word for this meme.
To me, liberal is the opposite of authoritarian, which tells me something about the source of their terminology.
“Liberals” see Boogeyman don’t say this ever lmfao
nobody says this strawman ass dumb bullshit
“Liberal” means free or freely and is an antonym of authoritism. In the US, the word liberal also means left wing and democratic. Please tell me who claims to be liberal but is arguing for police beatings. Because they only claim.
Liberalism is the philosophy of the capitalist status quo. It refers to the free flow of money and freedom from feudalism. Both the Republicans and Democrats are liberals. You tool.
read a book that isn’t Harry Potter
Man, you must be super smart in school and such. https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=liberal+
Thanks, but I finished school years ago, you should try that too
Could have fooled me. Choosing your own definition for words the the entire rest of the English speaking population already defined seems like a pretty sophomoric move to me. Calling someone a “tool” sealed the deal. Does that mean that you are ready to leave your inside-only-super-speical-club only meaning to “liberal” behind and start using the word like every else uses it?
Read literally any leftist political theory, jesus christ. You’re annoying af
Liberalism is the doctrine of Capitalism. It evokes individualism and Private Property Rights, may every man aspire to become a King.
Leftism opposes unjust hierarchy and supports collective ownership of the Means of Production.
You’re talking about neo-liberalism.
They’re as similar to liberals as national socialists are to socialists.
I am talking about Liberalism and Liberals. Neo-Liberalism has quite a lot in common with Liberalism.
If you’re talking about Social Democrats or progressives, you shouldn’t really refer to them as liberals.
Go check out WA Rep Adam Smiths (D) recent statement. Your average Democrat in politics is a wealthy right winger. Liberal democracy is the flavor of government which effectively institutes a dictatorship of the ownership class and limits the voice of the masses to a ballot box. USAs flavor of democracy is really the perfect example of the illusion of representation.
All this is true. But it does nit change the definition of liberal, liberalism, or liberty. I feel like people here are confusing liberalism with neo-liberalis or capitalism.
Literally no one. But this time like LITERALLY actually not one single person
Things that were totally, totally said /s
I’m confused - is OP suggesting that the Conservatives will be better than Liberals??
If so, I’m in the upside-down world again
Fun fact: There are more than two sides in a two-party country.
Ah, so anyone BUT Liberals …
Fun fact: this is bullshit.
Nope, people who are to the LEFT of liberals. You probably never heard of them in your tribal bubble.
Nope, people who are to the LEFT of liberals
Might want to try the grammar on that again, Tex. I’ve been a liberal and have voted for Democrats since Carter, so don’t lecture me about US politics, especially as you can’t make a clear claim yourself.
Liberals = Center right to right wing people pretending to be center left to center.
People who are to the left of liberals = people who are ACTUALLY left wing.
Just because you don’t understand doesn’t mean that there’s anything wrong with my grammar.
Likewise, having been part of the tribe for a long time doesn’t make you an expert on what’s to the left of it, “Tex” 🙄
What “clear claim” are you even referring to? You’re being very vague for someone accusing someone else of not being clear.
Just because you want to make up new definitions doesn’t mean yours are right either, bucko.
The US is primarily centrist. Always has been. There’s liberal and conservative voices in that center as well. Then you have voices like progressives and arch-conservatives, pulling more to either side.
Your definition is a clear attempt to just muddy the waters by lying about who actually wants what.
Just because you want to make up new definitions doesn’t mean yours are right either, bucko.
I’m not making up anything. You’re entitled to your own opinions, not your own facts. The facts are that Neoliberalism, which has been the dominant ideology of the Democratic Party ever since Clinton in 1992, is a center-right to right wing ideology that’s closely allied with billionaires and their corporations.
The US is primarily centrist. Always has been
Nope. The ruling class and their billionaire-owned mass media are, but not the people in general.
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The most popular politician in the US is Bernie Sanders.
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The majority of the population want universal single payer healthcare,
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More people than not agree that ACAB and that billionaires shouldn’t exist
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Most people agree that Israel is committing a genocide and that the US shouldn’t be supplying the bombs, targeting systems and other weapons that they’re using to do so.
Those are all majority opinions of the population in general which are to the left of your beloved centrist political establishment
Your definition is a clear attempt to just muddy the waters by lying about who actually wants what.
That’s fucking rich coming from a centrist/center right liberal pretending to speak for the majority rather than the privileged few and/or that the Dem leadership is on the side of the people 🙄
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Liberals are a pro-coroporation, big business backed left wing that is still very much an authoritarian flavor of left. When zoomed out, liberal is more like center right and the entire conversation is about how conservative we are. The fact is that there are other left wing politics and, for example, progressives would not stand for genocide. The more right wing you go the more supporting killing civilians that are literally trying to get food to survive is okay, until you get to full authoritarian which justified why it is okay to continue killing. That’s where Israel is right now. That’s why so many people are upset.
Hopefully that clears up any confusion.
If you think for a moment that just invading another country is a possibility, you’re insane. That would only make Netanyahu stronger; the goal is to weaken him and the entire right-wing of their government, and you can’t do that by invasion, or by cutting them off arbitrarily (that would cripple the US government).
Simplistic ideas don’t solve difficult problems. Hope that clears up any confusion.
How would cutting off Israel “cripple the US government”?
Have you not been watching the House or Senate for the past 30 years? ANY political advantage is a tool, especially for the Republicans since they LOVE defunding parts of the the government they see as in the way (IRS, for example). Look at Moscow Marjorie and how shes happy to break the system until they get what they want (money for Israel if Ukraine gets it).
Right wingers are shit, be they conservatives or liberals. This has become specially clear after the Oct 7 retaliation.
“The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative.”
- Malcolm X-
Conservatives are liberals. Both US parties are liberal. The opposite of conservative isn’t liberal, it’s progressive.
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The tweet does not imply that at all.
In america, liberal means “more left wing” and conservative means “more right wing”. You can talk about how far left or right people are but please can we avoid another pedantic circular talk about how Americans use the labels incorrectly?
No, I won’t start saying wrong things so that people who are wrong don’t get confused. Saying liberal means “more left wing” implies liberalism is a leftist ideology, which it is not and is a dangerous misconception.
You’re pretending you don’t know the context. You went out of your way to be all “akshually” about it and it’s insufferable
Yeah I’ll be the guy that says right wing politicians aren’t leftist akshually. Guess that’s insufferable to some people.
Are you also going around correcting everyone who says “potato chip” when you think they mean “crisp”?
No but I’ll correct someone if they’re about to order shrimp fried rice at a McDonald’s.
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Often people like OP will suggest that liberals and conservatives differ in no way that matters. Which makes sense if you’re an ignorant moron with no idea what views or actions the two sides actually hold and take.
But…but corporate money!
Yeah okay fine there’s a corrupt system and a lot of Democrats aren’t great. Which btw is a huge leap to “they’re all the same”. Also politicians are not the same as regular citizens.
No one who is actually aligned with “liberal” ideas would’ve ever said anything like “it’s great the police beat you to a fine red paste for protesting”
Disingenuous bullshit like this post is incredibly counterproductive and even if it weren’t, it is spreading lies. Fuck this piece of shit post.
I see someone is not familiar with the act of rhetorical exaggeration…
Okay maybe you exaggerated, let’s grant you that. Still, which “liberals” exactly are saying “these protesters got what they deserve”? I’ll wait.
I see someone is not familiar with the act of rhetorical exaggeration…
…and I see someone trolling.
They’re right - this is disingenuous bullshit.
So you’re not familiar with “trolling” either. Hint someone being sarcastic towards you is not it.
And I know they’re right. The libs are indeed full of disingenuous bullshit.
I love how the other person responding to you just assumes you’re conservative because you’re criticizing libs lol. Common binary brain L, smh
I love conservatives. It’s always a race to the bottom with you people.
Conservatives wait until a system is rich and then dive in like locusts. I’m old enough to have watched over half a century of their global bullshit - I’ll stay and stick with liberals any day over a world of conservative rule.
Yes the famous conservative strain of anarchism /s
Yes - and they’re called Libertarians.
And what about MAGA? How’s that for anarchists?
Sarcasm is notoriously difficult to determine in text, as you well may know, hence the popular use of /s to denote that.
Then again, either you completely forget that this is the world wide web, not AOL-Online, and not everyone understanding and use of speech is the same, or you’re fully aware of that and are going in for a double-dip, for shits and giggles.
You tell me. /s
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could be that the original applies to some small place with some different setup there, but news about their protests don’t really seem to spread to the rest of us
… what?
The posted image could refer to some place where libs aren’t the one protesting, unlike the countries usually seen having these protests
some place
the United States. that’s where liberals and conservatives are counter-protesting anti-genocide movements.
there are more than two sides to this conflict. both major parties in the US are pro-Israel aparthied. you’re trying to add false nuance to this post that doesn’t exist and goes against the intent of OOP.
Nah it seems we’re saying the same thing, no falsies. Reactionaries are mostly angry for libs protesting with all the rest but of course it’s true that there aren’t any clear cut lines. And as you pointed out, both major US parties are very conservative
we are not saying the same thing
Sure then, we’re also not saying anything contrary
