• Ukraine destroyed columns of waiting Russian soldiers with HIMARS, a Ukrainian commander said.
  • He said Ukraine targeted them as soon as it got permission to use allied weapons across the border.
  • Military experts say Ukraine’s ability to use Western-supplied weapons in Russia is aiding its fightback.
  • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    If the comment said “I hope israeli civilians see the horrors or war” I’m sure you would be just as generous with your thought process. Oh wait you’d be calling him straight up Genocidal.

    There is no whataboutism cluster munitions are illegal and this is a war crime. This is not debris this is the ATACKMS filled with m74 bomblets.

    Just be consistent in your morals. This is like someone defending Hamas gunning down non combatants.

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      cluster munitions are illegal

      Well, depends on the country. For example, if you are in Ukraine or russia (and surprisingly, Finland) they are legal.

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          Weird to segue directly from arguing that cluster munitions are illegal into claiming that the legality of weapons doesn’t matter, but okay

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            Weird to claim that a country claiming their war crimes are legal makes it legal under international law.

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            Yes. I never said Russia did. Neither does israel.

            The question is whether we hold Ukraine to the same standard as Hamas.

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              Then the question should be; are we holding Russia, Israel and Ukraine to the same standards at Hamas?

              Even that is a weird question because Hamas is not a country. It’s a terrorist organisation.

              I don’t get the point you’re trying to make here. I feel like you just want to hate on Ukraine. You are arguing that cluster bombs are illegal, which they are in most part of the world but not in Ukraine, and then crying about Ukraine using it, while blantly ignoring the human rights violations and war crimes committed. Things that are actually illegal internationally.

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          Check that link you posted. It’s only illegal in signatory countries. That’s how international law works. You can call it morally wrong, but if you call it illegal that’s just false unfortunately.

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      Fun fact, there are only two major countries that employ cluster munitions the United States and Russia. Everybody else has banned them. Since Ukraine is using almost exclusively Russian and American stocks of munitions for this war…