The sad part is after Biden’s interview last night where he repeated said only “the Lord god” could make him quit the race, this meme could have his face and name a d be just as accurate
The only difference is Biden refuses to use the powers granted to the president.
I see you’re very opposed to the idea of Biden continuing to try to prevent a fascist from seizing power. Now me, I’m behind Bernie 100%, and Bernie says Biden is the best chance we have to stop Trump, so I’m behind Biden. If they chose anyone else but Biden at this point, there’d be a lot of concern the choice wasn’t democratic, and it would hurt whoever’s chances. So if Biden says he’s personally going to prevent Project 2025 and not leave it up to anyone else, I’m on his side on that.
I’m concerned that if he IS sundowning, then he could do more damage closer to the election than dropping now. It’s concerning - Do we want to gamble on this?
Fuck, if only Trump could just drop dead. On top of several high profile GoP, killing them via crushing
I would as well if I was American (I’m Canadian though, so got our own unique brand of problems here)
Just god, I wish more Americans had the brains to realize that if the Dems lose, there won’t be free elections anymore. Instead, so many will go, “He doesn’t inspire” and not vote and could end up allowing democracy in the states to die and the world to choke
Literally an empty chair would be better than trump. That being said, Biden has carried out a fair amount of beneficial policies nationally speaking. The only issues I have with him is that he could be more progressive and his continued support of Israels war is horrific.
What they’re saying: “If you stay in and Trump is elected and everything you’re warning about comes to pass, how will you feel in January?” Stephanopoulos asked Biden.
“I’ll feel, as long as I gave it my all, and I did as good a job as I know I can do, that’s what this is about,” the president responded.
At other points in the interview, Biden repeatedly denied that his approval rating could be as low as 36%, that elected Democrats want him to step aside, and that the presidential race is anything but a "toss-up.
He’s not taking it seriously, and his entire campaign is based on “trump bad” which is true.
But to turn around say he doesn’t really care if he loses?
Why are you defending his refusal to take this serious or even acknowledge people don’t want him?
Why do you want Biden to be the candidate more than you want to stop trump from becoming president?
I don’t. I made it very clear in my comment that I only care about Biden because I want to stop Trump from becoming president. Now either you didn’t care to pay attention enough to understand the most basic point of my argument, or you’re lying about what I said. And I don’t feel like seriously engaging with someone who is either incompetent or a liar.
You are however more than welcome to spout such nonsense on [email protected], which I created to make fun of opinions like yours.
Trump people were saying the exact same thing in 2020. They were ignorant and wrong and the idea is just as ignorant and wrong today. Ignore the polls and lose the election.
Biden had been campaigning on his accomplishments. Talks about them constantly. It’s clear he has a compare and contrast approach that includes his accomplishments.
Seriously, watch last night’s interview if you haven’t. Biden couldn’t even list his own accomplishments and most of what he does have to brag about, is legislation that his total involvement was signing a piece of paper.
Any Dem in office would have accomplished as much as Biden has. There’s no reason it has to be Biden.
They addressed 99% of the shit I’ve been bitching about for longer than I’ve had a Lemmy account.
If you can watch that, if you can look at polling, if you can talk to actual people and still feel confident that Biden is a good bet against trump…
Then I won’t take time trying to explain how picking Biden is shit tier risk assessment.
You say “we should run a Dem candidate” but this is not how the system actually works. Both parties are private organizations whose internal policies are regulated internally. The primaries are not public institutions, they are not federally regulated, and their results are not even legally binding. “We” could run the perfect candidate as a Democrat. They’re unfailingly charismatic, knowledgeable on every subject, yet every voter sees themselves in them. Lifelong Republicans even change party to vote for them. Ultimately, the Democratic party is not obligated to accept them as leader, even with 100% of all votes in their favor.
It’s broken. I’m not trying to tell you that it’s okay. It’s not. But just being mad without understanding what you’re mad about isn’t going to change a damn thing.
his is not how the system actually works. Both parties are private organizations whose internal policies are regulated internally
Which means the DNC don’t have to name Biden…
For almost a decade they’ve been saying they can do whatever.
Even argued it to a judge that primary votes don’t matter, so it’s fine if they rig it.
It’s not just Biden who can say he’s not the candidate, the people he appointed to run the DNC can say it too and run someone else, regardless of if “lord god” has told Biden to drop out or not.
Wrong again, little dude. The DNC is not in charge of Biden, quite the opposite.
We have an oligarchic duopoly squatting in our democratic republic, and a plethora of military juntas (AKA police unions) bullying our devolved local powers into submission. The American experiment ended a few decades ago, and we never even noticed. Maybe go duck hunting with a judge about it.
Wrong again, little dude. The DNC is not in charge of Biden, quite the opposite.
You literally just said:
This is not how the system actually works. Both parties are private organizations whose internal policies are regulated internally
And the DNC’s lawyers have told a judge:
We could have—and we could have voluntarily decided that, Look, we’re gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way. That’s not the way it was done. But they could have. And that would have also been their right.
The current chairman was selected by Biden, so he’s presumably onside. He and the rest could hypothetically stage an internal coup against Biden, but you’re describing something that has never to my knowledge occurred, and would smash the political machine of the party from within.
At that point we’re talking about an actual revolution, and you and I are not close enough to open that discussion.
but you’re describing something that has never to my knowledge occurred, and would smash the political machine of the party from within.
Right, we haven’t tried it before…
We have tried running an incumbent with approval numbers as bad as Biden before tho.
How much do you know about Jimmy Carter’s second term?
At that point we’re talking about an actual revolution
I think the problem is the furtherest left we have is AOC. And despite what republicans and moderate Dems say, she’s way more of an MLK than a Malcom. And MLK was very open that his peaceful approach was only accepted because the alternative to MLK wasn’t the status quo, it was motherfukin Malcolm.
The only downside to AOC people can come up with that is that she’s the furthest left, so to fix that we need to bring up other names.
Like self avowed communist, rapper, writer, director, and political activist for decades: Boots Riley.
And just like Malcolm wasn’t prepared to accept the status quo, Boots has a plan for when voting truly stops working:
The sad part is after Biden’s interview last night where he repeated said only “the Lord god” could make him quit the race, this meme could have his face and name a d be just as accurate
The only difference is Biden refuses to use the powers granted to the president.
trump doesn’t
I see you’re very opposed to the idea of Biden continuing to try to prevent a fascist from seizing power. Now me, I’m behind Bernie 100%, and Bernie says Biden is the best chance we have to stop Trump, so I’m behind Biden. If they chose anyone else but Biden at this point, there’d be a lot of concern the choice wasn’t democratic, and it would hurt whoever’s chances. So if Biden says he’s personally going to prevent Project 2025 and not leave it up to anyone else, I’m on his side on that.
I’m concerned that if he IS sundowning, then he could do more damage closer to the election than dropping now. It’s concerning - Do we want to gamble on this?
Fuck, if only Trump could just drop dead. On top of several high profile GoP, killing them via crushing
I’ll vote for Biden’s rotting corpse over Trump.
I would as well if I was American (I’m Canadian though, so got our own unique brand of problems here)
Just god, I wish more Americans had the brains to realize that if the Dems lose, there won’t be free elections anymore. Instead, so many will go, “He doesn’t inspire” and not vote and could end up allowing democracy in the states to die and the world to choke
Literally an empty chair would be better than trump. That being said, Biden has carried out a fair amount of beneficial policies nationally speaking. The only issues I have with him is that he could be more progressive and his continued support of Israels war is horrific.
Why do you want Biden to be the candidate more than you want to stop trump from becoming president?
You know polls show Biden will lose and the more people see of him, the worse he does in polls.
What is your plan to get voters with Biden again?
You know like 13 hours ago he literally said he wouldn’t care that much if he lost to trump?
https://www.axios.com/2024/07/06/biden-abc-interview-trump-election-peace
He’s not taking it seriously, and his entire campaign is based on “trump bad” which is true.
But to turn around say he doesn’t really care if he loses?
Why are you defending his refusal to take this serious or even acknowledge people don’t want him?
I don’t. I made it very clear in my comment that I only care about Biden because I want to stop Trump from becoming president. Now either you didn’t care to pay attention enough to understand the most basic point of my argument, or you’re lying about what I said. And I don’t feel like seriously engaging with someone who is either incompetent or a liar.
You are however more than welcome to spout such nonsense on [email protected], which I created to make fun of opinions like yours.
Well said.
Thanks!
But why do you think he’ll win when polls show trump with a significant lead and the more Biden is in public, the lower his numbers go?
Like yeah, it would be great and so easy if Biden could beat Trump and we could just check out till the election.
But literally every metric, data points, and general indication is Biden won’t be able to.
Hell, Biden himself said his chances are “a coin flip” last night…
And completely refused stepping out of the way u less “lord God” told him to.
You mean the same polls that are biased towards whatever they want it to be? Fuck off with your apathy.
-Trump supporter, late 2020
Makes absolutely no sense. Try again.
Trump people were saying the exact same thing in 2020. They were ignorant and wrong and the idea is just as ignorant and wrong today. Ignore the polls and lose the election.
Ah another both sider
Maybe…
Maybe, just maybe, people wouldn’t compare the two of them so much if Biden wasn’t acting so much like trump?
Have you just not watched the interview yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8LoAsHz-Mc
If you’re tired of people comparing Biden and trump, maybe we should run a Dem candidate who has anything else to campaign on than trump.
Like, Biden and his campaign constantly compare the two, but when voters do it, it’s literally:
Biden had been campaigning on his accomplishments. Talks about them constantly. It’s clear he has a compare and contrast approach that includes his accomplishments.
Like beating medicare?
Seriously, watch last night’s interview if you haven’t. Biden couldn’t even list his own accomplishments and most of what he does have to brag about, is legislation that his total involvement was signing a piece of paper.
Any Dem in office would have accomplished as much as Biden has. There’s no reason it has to be Biden.
They addressed 99% of the shit I’ve been bitching about for longer than I’ve had a Lemmy account.
If you can watch that, if you can look at polling, if you can talk to actual people and still feel confident that Biden is a good bet against trump…
Then I won’t take time trying to explain how picking Biden is shit tier risk assessment.
You say “we should run a Dem candidate” but this is not how the system actually works. Both parties are private organizations whose internal policies are regulated internally. The primaries are not public institutions, they are not federally regulated, and their results are not even legally binding. “We” could run the perfect candidate as a Democrat. They’re unfailingly charismatic, knowledgeable on every subject, yet every voter sees themselves in them. Lifelong Republicans even change party to vote for them. Ultimately, the Democratic party is not obligated to accept them as leader, even with 100% of all votes in their favor.
It’s broken. I’m not trying to tell you that it’s okay. It’s not. But just being mad without understanding what you’re mad about isn’t going to change a damn thing.
Which means the DNC don’t have to name Biden…
For almost a decade they’ve been saying they can do whatever.
Even argued it to a judge that primary votes don’t matter, so it’s fine if they rig it.
It’s not just Biden who can say he’s not the candidate, the people he appointed to run the DNC can say it too and run someone else, regardless of if “lord god” has told Biden to drop out or not.
Wrong again, little dude. The DNC is not in charge of Biden, quite the opposite.
We have an oligarchic duopoly squatting in our democratic republic, and a plethora of military juntas (AKA police unions) bullying our devolved local powers into submission. The American experiment ended a few decades ago, and we never even noticed. Maybe go duck hunting with a judge about it.
You literally just said:
And the DNC’s lawyers have told a judge:
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/dnc-lawyer-reportedly-said-they-could-have-chosen-between-clinton-sanders-over-cigars-in-back-rooms/
So why do you think the DNC can’t name someone besides Biden the candidate?
The current chairman was selected by Biden, so he’s presumably onside. He and the rest could hypothetically stage an internal coup against Biden, but you’re describing something that has never to my knowledge occurred, and would smash the political machine of the party from within.
At that point we’re talking about an actual revolution, and you and I are not close enough to open that discussion.
Right, we haven’t tried it before…
We have tried running an incumbent with approval numbers as bad as Biden before tho.
How much do you know about Jimmy Carter’s second term?
I think the problem is the furtherest left we have is AOC. And despite what republicans and moderate Dems say, she’s way more of an MLK than a Malcom. And MLK was very open that his peaceful approach was only accepted because the alternative to MLK wasn’t the status quo, it was motherfukin Malcolm.
The only downside to AOC people can come up with that is that she’s the furthest left, so to fix that we need to bring up other names.
Like self avowed communist, rapper, writer, director, and political activist for decades: Boots Riley.
And just like Malcolm wasn’t prepared to accept the status quo, Boots has a plan for when voting truly stops working:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acT_PSAZ7BQ
I truly hope it never comes to that, but historically it’s got a pretty good success rate…
And just the existence of a Malcolm like option makes conservatives suddenly wishing for AOC.
But here’s a clip from Boots’ most recent show that shows how on point his messaging is if he gets a platform:
https://youtu.be/lpagmvYZKRc?si=b5WYFdhWqWoaSMzW&t=41
That’s King Donald the first.