Stop using Brave Browser
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Seriously.
  • Ibaudia@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9510·
    11 months ago

    The fact that its main 2 gimmicks are a shitty ad blocker and integrated cryptocurrency should be enough of a red flag, honestly. Just use Firefox, people!

    • Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      Firefox is Google’s controlled opposition. It exists so that Google can claim not to be a monopoly. There’s a reason a significant amount of their funding comes from Google, and it’s not because Google doesn’t have a vested interest in maintaining a single second place browser that’s popular but not too popular.

  • Gnubyte@lemdit.comEnglish
    10234·
    11 months ago

    the hateful browser

    Holy shit man imagine if we judged every huge project by one asshole at the top. There wouldn’t be a single thing to enjoy in this world.

    Edit:

    I am going to add more perspective to this, because holy shit people are so into eating nothing burgers.

    Reddit/Twitter was a database and API that everyone was centralized onto, there was no choice. Brave you can literally fork because its open source. Aside from that this was literally the CEO’s personal donation of $1000…in like 2014. Almost 10 yrs ago.

    Elon, as CEO and on the X/Twitter brand:

    Meanwhile Brendan:

    Gnubyte

  • ddnomad@infosec.pub
    611·
    11 months ago

    Use Firefox or Safari, the more people use Chromium-based browsers the faster we get to the situation where Google completely owns the Internet (and they almost do now).

  • tengkuizdihar@discuss.onlineEnglish
    634·
    11 months ago

    Vivaldi? Trusting a closed sourced application for privacy? What?

    Not even defending brave here, just weird that the author say that.

  • dantheclamman@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    617·
    11 months ago

    Today I learned that people take it VERY PERSONALLY when you criticize their chosen browser. 😂

  • arc@lemm.eeEnglish
    606·
    11 months ago

    Brave is a marching band of red flags. It claims privacy while injecting ads, affiliate codes and crypto into the browser. It’s kind of sad to see someone like Brendan Eich who should know better turn to the dark side and pretend this is all fine. It isn’t.

    Best advice I could give for anyone who wants privacy is use Firefox or a branch of it. Firefox is out of the box the most privacy conscious mainstream browser and add-ons make it more so. If you want absolute privacy you could even use a derivative like Tor Browser.

    • ours@lemmy.filmEnglish
      144·
      11 months ago

      Louis Rossmann also recommended Brave in one of his videos. Quite sad.

    • prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      11·
      6 months ago

      These people talking as if not all the crypto bloat would be opt in lol. It just take 30 seconds or even less to turn off everything of that.

  • rog@lemmy.oneEnglish
    596·
    11 months ago

    I dont know why anyone would leave chrome and land on something like brave.

    If youre ditching chrome, which you should, go to an actual different browser and use Firefox.

  • barberousse@lemmy.caEnglish
    6113·
    11 months ago

    Long time Brave user here. This made me uninstall Brave and move to Firefox. Thank you !

  • owiseedoubleyou@lemmy.mlEnglish
    568·
    11 months ago

    I can’t think of a reason why anyone would use a browser other than Firefox and it’s forks.

  • Shadywack@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9245·
    11 months ago

    This article is useless trash. There is no real technical argument here except “founder bad”.

    I do have reasons for not using Brave, but it’s to do with the annoying defaults and the crypto integration. They default whitelist Google, LinkedIn, and Facebook garbage that I have to go and toggle off.

    Given the level of effort and extensions like Facebook container on Firefox, I just prefer the better experience for me. This bullshit about getting on identity politics agendas I find abhorrent and repulsive. This author’s a stupid fuckhead.

    • Reygle@lemmy.worldEnglish
      227·
      11 months ago

      Did you read the whole thing and you’re just okay with them quietly pulling sponsored links for FTX?

      • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
        103·
        11 months ago

        Not sure about OP,

        I read the whole thing and it doesn’t really bother me because I’d never touch their coin crap. The whole we’ll pay you to browse smells like a pyramid scheme.

        Downsides:

        CEO is an ass: check

        They’ll sell my traffic: check

        They’ve added a half assed insecure tor implementation: check

        They’ve replaced ads on websites with their own to an illegal level: check

        They’re trying to use crypto currency to fund themselves and did that to a level that got them charged by the FTC: check

        Once their crypto plans fails, they’ll probably either sell more of my data or fold up: check

        Upsides:

        Runs all my chrome plugins

        Tight IPFS integration without running Kubo

        Decent P2P bookmark/history syncing to unlimited nodes without making an account

        Very solid anti-fingerprinting when combined with privacy badger.

        Small enough that selling my data will have less reach than Google or Microsoft selling my data

        Blocks youtube ads, even on mobile (while they still can)

    • Wakmrow@lemmy.worldEnglish
      123·
      11 months ago

      Your reasons are discussed in the post. Did you just read the first section and then get mad?

      • Shadywack@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        11 months ago

        From KHTML to Webkit, to Blink. Forking forked forks, but still open source. If we were talking about a closed source browser then it would be a travesty. Today what Google’s doing with Web Integrity is disgusting, but their freely available codebase is not. If the Linux kernel supplanted the NT kernel and Apple decided to re-develop the Mac and iOS (however absurd the notion is given the gigantic amount of work required to do, let’s just say hypothetically), and Linux had a “monopoly” on kernels by getting 95% marketshare across mobile and desktop systems, I highly doubt there’d be an uproar for the sake of “muh choices”.

        As to self awareness, conservatives like iPhones, and liberals love them some Chik-Fil-A, and I can write off pointless articles trying to get me to shop elsewhere over “founder bad” for gender or identity politics. My best friend is a gay man, and I am happy for that couple to have the right to do so. If I didn’t use a product or service because of a political misalignment, I wouldn’t use anything. Companies that work against socialized medicine irk me because I think we need that, and companies that support gun control irk me because I live by castle doctrine.

        There is room in this country for people that purple and cross their ideals, this idea of absolutes is absurd. Gender and identity politics are pointless to even address given the challenges ahead of us, how about we give a shit about…housing or healthcare? Let’s maybe do something about climate change by addressing gentrification and long commutes? Let’s fight together to keep our WFH.

        Selective outrage is where all the LGBTQ issues belong for the short term, we have real problems.

    • Snapz@lemmy.worldEnglish
      41·
      11 months ago

      They aren’t.

      The author also makes a much more compelling argument than you on their position, and the article supports the argument with verifiable fact and links.

      Only one side of the equation uses the phrase “identity politics”, and it’s the broken flailing, desperate side - Gay people are going to get married, trans people exist and interracial couples are going to walk down your main Street holding hands and smiling. You need to accept these basic facts about your fellow human beings.

      • Shadywack@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        11 months ago

        One of my best friends is gay and married, and I fully support their right to do so and be recognized as a couple. I just don’t see how the politics of a founder need to have any bearing on how I use the product. Conservatives like using iPhones and liberals still like their Chik-Fil-A food and Marvel entertainment despite Perlmutter moving huge amounts of money for conservative support. It’s hypocritical for people to froth at the mouth over Brendan Eich while they still order from Amazon, shop at Walmart, and patron many other conservative companies. Identity politics in consumerism is ridiculous, and pandering to the virtue signaling helps no one. “Founder bad” arguments are pathetic, as are the constant reminders that we need to shop X for social causes.

    • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      54·
      11 months ago

      This really sums up everything I felt while reading it.

      I’m still using it and Firefox in lieu of Chrome

      Brave + Privacy badger has the only working fingerprint reduction (https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/) I can find. So I know brave is tracking me, but all the sites I visit had a hard time doing so if I don’t log in.

      I use IPFS quite a bit and I really like that it’s integrated without me having to install Kubo everywhere. I tried the companion in FF but it still opens ipfs:// in brave.

      The CEO is a piece of crap. That seems pretty average IMO.

      They’ll sell my data. Anyone that can fingerprint me will do the same. I have one smallish company selling my data instead of google or Microsoft.

      They have previously done shitty things and they have put in too many fake features in the name of privacy like a half assed TOR implementation.

      I’m not against trying other things. but every time someone says OMG BRAVE IS THE WORST. It ends up with a very slight Utility > Evil function for me.

  • Rose@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5814·
    11 months ago

    Thanks. Whenever I raised the issue of homophobia or his general support of right-wing causes that threaten people’s privacy (see the aftermath of Roe v. Wade for example), I got downvoted, be it on the PrivacyGuides sub where they adore the browser, or right here just weeks ago.

  • AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    496·
    11 months ago

    Oh boy, this comment section is gonna be spicy. I can already smell the smoke from the Brave enthusiasts heads exploding.