Fox News did not air a second of the speeches from alienated GOP leaders and former Trump officials who endorsed Vice President Kamala Harris at this week’s Democratic National Convention.

  • barsquid@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    3 months ago

    I’ll never understand why you MAGA propagandists want the guy who bombed the shit out of Yemen to help Israel “finish the job” before turning against Ukraine and then domestically. But I think genocide is bad, so that’s the difference, I suppose.

    • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      3 months ago

      the guy who bombed the shit out of Yemen to help Israel “finish the job” before turning against Ukraine and then domestically.

      This applies literally to both candidates. The Biden admin hasn’t been slacking off in suppressing your civil rights as much as possible.

      • barsquid@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        3 months ago

        Only one of two candidates will win. So, unlike you MAGAs, I’m voting for the outcome that won’t include Donald “finishing the job.”

        • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          3 months ago

          You are the reason the Democrats are doing genocide. If they knew they’d lose voters because of their stance on Israel they would be forced to change their platform. They believe they can commit unlimited genocide because their voters are loyal dogs who will beg for more.

          • barsquid@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            7
            arrow-down
            4
            ·
            3 months ago

            It’s actually people voting third party that forces Dems to chase people who will actually vote for them. 1/3 of the country doesn’t vote at all. If everyone voted so that the Repub platform was nonviable, the parties would have to move left to compete.

            Why do you hate Ukrainians so much that you want them to be genocided? Why do you hate women so much that you want them to be unwilling incubators?

            • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              6
              ·
              3 months ago

              Republicans have only moved farther to the right after every single Democratic victory. 2008 turned them into insane racist teaparty lunies. 2020 turned them all MAGA. They’re just going to become even more deranged when Harris wins. Your theory can’t explain that.

              • Dkarma@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                3 months ago

                None of that has anything to do with the Dems. You act like Dems are pushing the GOP further right which is hilarious.

                The GOP is doing that on their own because that’s who they are and conservatives have always been.

                • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  3 months ago

                  The theory of why Democrats move towards Republican positions is that they do it as a response to Republican victory.

                  We both agree this isn’t how Republicans behave.

                  Let’s also remember 2020. Every candidate ran to the left of Clinton. The reality was that they didn’t move to the right after Trump’s first victory.

                  So it doesn’t look like this is how Democrats behave either.

                  This theory of politics isn’t backed up by the observed reality. Why do you think that is?

              • barsquid@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                4
                ·
                3 months ago

                That’s Southern Strategy. I know you MAGAs actually enjoy the push towards white supremacy, but that would not be a viable strategy for riling up their voters if the remaining 1/3 of the country actually showed up.

                There’s also a ratcheting effect, where your team puts in theocratic fascist SCOTUS justices. They then do stuff like steal elections (2000) or grant unlimited election interference to anyone with money (2010), alongside your desired goals like ending women’s rights to healthcare.

                • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  5
                  arrow-down
                  3
                  ·
                  3 months ago

                  I’m voting downticket for Democrats, get off my nuts. I just won’t vote for genocide.

                  Why can’t Democrats have a Northern strategy?

                  • barsquid@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    arrow-down
                    3
                    ·
                    3 months ago

                    They cannot have a Northern Strategy as a viable plan because 1/3 of the country just doesn’t vote. The racists and christofascists do vote, consistently, every election, for the furthest right option.

      • Kalysta@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        Please tell me who to vote for that has a snowball’s chance in hell of winning that is against genocide?

        I usually vote third party. I fucking love Jill Stein. But keeping Trump out of office is far too important. Trump wants to hand Bibi all of Palestine. Harris can and will be pushed to ending weapons sales. Pressure will get to where she has no choice. Trump doesn’t respond to anything other than what his crazy brain wants at the time.