• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I’m sort of tired of repeating myself…

    Yes, I understand that FOR AMERICANS, the genital mutilation of infants is very mundane.

    The point I’m making is that we know that “what people are used to” doesn’t define what is right or wrong. We know that. Granted, it’s hard to say where exactly morals come from, but when we face something that feels grossly immoral, we have a strong feeling about it. Like say things having to do with the genitals of defenseless infants.

    The shocking part in this is how it’s acceptable for some — like you — that some people do accept these things. There’s a whole lot of shit that say, former fascist states have done, which would be beyond horrendous, even if somewhat “mundane” to the people living in those states at those times. I’m sure you wouldn’t say “you should consider it from X perspective” if I was talking about that, because you’d realise I’m not talking about the morality of the controversial thing, I’m talking about how shocking it is how easily we (humans in general) can make horrendous things feel mundane by being exposed to them for a while, despite there still being knowledge that that thing isn’t okay. so essentially it’s willfull ignorance of something we know to be wrong, and the fact that we can do that so easily…

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      2 months ago

      I wasn’t talking about right or wrong, just what is normal or mundane. I haven’t taken any moral position on that.

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          2 months ago

          Seems pretty useless to do that here, now, when we all agree.

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            2 months ago

            So you agree that you should have an opinion on this, when you just explicitly avoided that, despite that having been my point all along?

            Ei tarvinnu kyllä nickiä kattoa että tunnisti suomalaisen.

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              2 months ago

              I have always had an opinion about it, I just don’t see a reason to bring it up when it is not the point of what I’m saying. That could be a little obnoxious.

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                2 months ago

                Oh yes, it would just be totally obnoxious to voice an opinion against child genital mutilation, on a FORUM.

                “If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.”

                ― Desmond Tutu (Foreword)

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                  2 months ago

                  If it’s on a place where everyone already agrees and it’s not even the point of what I was saying then yes, it can be pretty obnoxious.

                  If you are neutral

                  I’m not neutral though.

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                    2 months ago

                    I’m not neutral though.

                    I haven’t taken any moral position on that.

                    Okay. Ever heard of the term “avoidance”?