• BmeBenji@lemm.ee
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    13 hours ago

    There’s a large number of people out there that think “everything sucks right now and there’s a democrat president, so to make things different I should vote republican”

    Fund schools. Keep the department of Education in existence and quadruple its funding.

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        And since enough dumbasses are actually putting forward enough effort to show there is a frighteningly high backing for a candidate that will prevent any presidential voting in the future, I’m gonna have to break my record and vote for one of the major 2 parties for this election.

        One of these 2 WILL WIN THE US ELECTION. There is no pretending that, this close to polling date, that there is any other outcome.

        We need to start locally and push harder for reforms from there up. Only one of the 2 party systems will allow this in our future at the moment. This is just the sad and horrible truth we face at the moment.

        If we really think the system has failed us and will not let us break free of the 2 party bullshit, well, then we need to be better educated and better organized. We have internet and advanced messaging technology. Our past is riddled with those who made amazing changes and voiced mass public opinion with way less.

        Knowledge is power. Protect and enhance the education to really power change.

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          Only one of the 2 party systems will allow this in our future at the moment

          The Dems sued to remove the PSL from the ballot in my state

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          If you want people to work from the bottom up to achieve the necessary changes to prevent this country from being genocidal you will rapidly discover that neither the Democratic nor Republican parties can be that vehicle. They are our enemies and work against us, only dithering with cynical PR and pandering to avoid losing without actually needing to deliver on any demands. Unprincipled attempts to enter and change the Democrats on their terms leads to alienation or cooption, e.g. “the squad” supporting Israel or getting destroyes by capital.

          Rather than support a genocoder, please do the actual change work. At least then you can see it fail and then do actually useful things against the genocidal empire.

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      11 hours ago

      There’s a large number of people out there that think “even though democrats had a disastrous four years, they will magically fund schools and give everyone a pony when they’re back in power.”

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      Hell yeah!

      I never had kids, never wanted kids. Have always pushed for education. As a stoner, was crazy excited about talk of legalization and taxes going to schools when the idea was first floated around by us. Happily. Hell yes.

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      Let’s pretend for a second that voting blue would stop the slaughter at “just” the Palestinians (it doesn’t).

      If you think you’re knowingly sacrificing an entire people to annihilation just so save your own skin, and you can not only live with that but argue in favor of it instead of redacting your entire government, you’re a fucking nazi. Peddle your them-or-us genocide support somewhere else you blue maga piece of shit.

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      You can fight the trolley itself instead of justifying supporting genocide.

      PS this is the real world not a meme. Political power is not a trolley problem, it is a matter of organization and education. You disempower yourself and others by pretending you can only backseat cheerlead a genocide. Instead of supporting this, go and join an organization that is actually opposing it and start doing work.

      In the US, every student is eventually presented with lessons on the Holocaust and asked to think about what they would do. Right now, to be honest, your answer would have to be, “support it using poorly thought out propaganda”.

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        7 hours ago

        Very long way of saying you’re looking forward to trump being in power again and forever taking away your right to vote.

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          My comment already contradicts your response, even with its inventions. Please try to address what I say rather than making things up.

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            You said to Organize and admit a genocide is occurring, while not letting yourself be convinced that voting is the only course of action.

            I’m saying that’s awesome but what do we do when trump gets elected because no one wants to vote now?

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              You said to Organize and admit a genocide is occurring, while not letting yourself be convinced that voting is the only course of action.

              Of course voting is not the only course of action. Voting is incredibly little. What, you check a box? Maybe wait a few hours at most to get into a pilling station? Dear God.

              This is an incredibly limited amount of political action, particularly given the way in which box checking translates into any political action (electoral college, media monopolies, biased education, wage slavery limiting political education, campaigns built on donations from capital).

              I’m saying that’s awesome but what do we do when trump gets elected because no one wants to vote now?

              You actually do political work. You become educated and join an organization that does more than act as a sheepdog that turns alienatuon into genocide votes.

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                And in the end Trump wins the vote and you lose your oppurtunity to do any real politcal work! Congrats.

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                  Trump was already president once and my political work was actually easier because liberals were outraged and could not understand the complicoty of their representatives. Their representatives merely reflect the cynical apathy of their position that is shielded when they are in power.

                  If Trump were an existential threat would you just be sitting around posting bad logic? You know he is just an incremental partial detriment in some ways and some vague miasma in other ways. Biden is, for example, a much more coherent genocidal Zionist, as is Harris.

                  Rather than quibble about how to appease one’s inner Eichmann, why not fight against it?

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      Just openly admitting you support genocide. Disgusting. And don’t even pretend you care about anyone represented in the bottom half of the image; if Democrats said murdering trans folks was necessary to beat Trump, you’d support that too.