These might be the good old days. Go outside, feel the grass, say wassup to your neighbors,… whatever you do that means community, because sh*t might get bad for a while.

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    Technically there are 2 months until Jan 6 in which anything can happen. I’m just not hopeful that anything will and don’t think it’s in my best interest to take a stand and make change happen.

    This is how they win. We let them.

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    I didn’t understand what this post meant yesterday. “I’m still afraid of what would happen?”
    Now it makes total sense. Fuck.

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    Something tells me this day will eventually live in greater infamy than 9/11.

    Like in 2230, provided there is still something resembling the human race, “9/11” will be just another boring date to memorize together with shit like the Alamo w/e.

    The day the republic fell, however, will be a lot more recognizable and memorable.

    248 years. Empires “always” last around ~250 (Let’s ignore the Romans for now) so we’re exactly on time.

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    Jesus Christ people… these are humans who voted with concerns for themselves and their communities. Just because you didn’t get what you wanted or you did get what you wanted doesn’t mean it’s carte Blanche to say the most fucking heinous shit about each other.

    They wants us divided.

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    I’m seeing a lot of “democracy is going to die” posts… But… I hate to break it to you:

    America is not a democracy. And if somehow it is a democracy, then it’s an incredibly bad one. It’s the least democratic democracy in the Western world.

    The two party system, the first past the post voting system, the indirect method of counting votes, lobbying, gerrymandering, the electoral collage. Systems to try and manipulate what a vote means. Systems that try to remove as much democracy from democracy as possible, while still being able to keep up some mock appearance.

    Your whole country is fucked and backwards from the very beginning, and that wouldn’t be so bad. But if America does something we all have to suffer for it!

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    As a person from Europe, who’s is living next to Ukraine, who’s girlfriend is ukranian, who’s many friends are Ukrainian, who’s many friends died due to that terrorist state: If you were eligible to vote in the US and didn’t, fuck you.

    Any vote that didn’t go to Kamala, is a vote for fascism, a vote to accelerate and finish the genocide of palestine, a vote to cease support for Ukraine and a vote to help terrorists in ruzzia. If you support any of that, Fuck. You.

    But I know my ukranian brothers, they will not surrender. Even if you selfish American pricks don’t support them. They will fight until they can’t fight anymore, and then they will still fight.

    Unlike you, they are brave. They are heroes. They know whats fucking right.

    And frankly, for all terrible things coming to the US, if you didnt vote, you deserve them all.

    If you are from the LGBTQ+ community, not white or a woman, and you didn’t vote, you have just commited suicide.

    I will still support Ukraine, financially. Its not much but I don’t care. And if its not enough and the worst comes, I am ready to die to save my brothers, just like my people did in the past.

    I am willing to do my part, if you didn’t vote, you didnt. So one, last fuck you.

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    So as far as I understand it as of now it’s pretty much decided early with almost no chance of Harris making it.

    So there you are. You’re right. I was right. We all were.

    We hoped for sanity.

    But it seems a massive criminal openly stating he will run a dictatorship has been voluntarily elected.

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    as an european, i am watching in absolute shock. i really dont understand how HALF the USA can still vote for this Chicken Nugget of a person.

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      Some people only have information from one side of the story. If Trump wins, he will likely try to mimic what both Putin and Orbán did with the media.

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          It will have even less so, but the only “bad media” will be the ones that doesn’t use “trans groomers” and “illegal migrants” in their headlines…

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            So: start organising to fight fascism immediately. We’ve been saying this for years: you don’t fight fascism at the urns. Unionize, make collective grassroots power, read leftist theory (the only ones who managed to stop fascism in the last century).

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              Managed to stop fascism? That was a collective effort, but ok. Stop totalitarian dictatorship? Not at all.

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      While you’re mostly right, it isn’t really half because we have this fun thing called the electoral college, that likes to make Republicans win.

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        It’s not even close to half. Republicans are a quarter to a third of the country.

        It’s voter suppression and Democrats being the biggest possible fuckups they could be at every fucking opportunity.

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        You could watch the reactionism ramp up as they slipped into the minority during Clinton; and white men struggling to deal with the loss of their relevance has basically been the story of American politics since.

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    I honestly find this hilarious for a couple reasons—

    1. His retarded voters are going to wake up 6 months from now with more Indian, Mexican, and Middle Eastern neighbors than ever before.

    2. Inflation is going to increase like it did before under him.

    3. The measures his government will pass will heavily favor corporations, both foreign and domestic.

    4. If incels think that women hated them before, just wait, his incel base of voters are going to be enemy number one with women from all walks of life.

    5. Women dying from lack of abortion care is going to get worse (I don’t find this funny). The wives and daughters of republicans are going to among those that pass away from the lack of abortion care.

    6. Trump doesn’t care about White people and their weird obsession with being replaced. He even stated that he’s going to increase immigration to levels never before seen due to AI, for some reason.

    This upcoming Trump presidency is going to be a dumpster fire for his voting base because he will accomplish none of the things that they think Trump will do. He won’t get them a wife, he won’t end no fault divorce, he won’t make anime real, he won’t start mass deportations—he’s just trying to stay out of jail.

    For the rest of us, just laugh. We’ve been through 4 years of this idiot before.

    The only thing I find irksome is the gloating of his retarded voting base. They would really vote against their own interest just to laugh at CNN/MSNBC pundits panicking online. It’s like setting fire to your house because it makes your neighbor seethe.

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      I don’t live in the US, so my views are probably biased by our anti-Trump media hype, so even though I agree with most of your points, I’d leave two open for discussion:

      If incels think that women hated them before, just wait, his incel base of voters are going to be enemy number one with women from all walks of life.

      I was under the impression that Republicans are not looking for love from women, but their total subjugation. Women don’t need to love them (perhaps they can, only in Stockholm syndrome mode), but they have to obey. I don’t think incels will be disappointed.

      For the rest of us, just laugh. We’ve been through 4 years of this idiot before.

      I said this twice before, and I was always wrong, so take this with a huge boulder of sand. But I don’t think he’ll last four years (unless they do a Weekend at Bernies), so part of the 4 years will be with that weird cross-dresser, and I have absolutely no idea what to expect from him.

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      All of this already happened + a mismanaged pandemic and his voters still supported him.

      From day 1 there’s going to be somebody recreating his persona to be ready for 2028 to repeat this.

      The US being a dumpster fire is nothing new. But this is a new low

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      1. 11% more women voted than men, if they all voted democrat, they would have won easily.

      You could argue that a proportion of these women are brainwashed or whatever else but the simple fact of the matter is that not enough of them felt engaged with democratic policies.

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      Adding to this, the wealth disparity is going to continue to increase with those who have equities dramatically increasing their personal capitol, while the middle class is going to fall further behind.

      I’m convinced a major part of inflation that goes completely ignored is the staggering amount of wealth generated by equities. People have literally seen 1 million become 2 or 3 over the last few years. They have been spending money with complete disregard… Watching what people buy at Costco is insane!

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        The goal is to make the middle class disappear and blame someone else for it. The US wants a wealthy upper class and a permanent lower working class. This is why Republicans never act on immigration, legal or otherwise, because it’s the best way to lower wages, it’s a huge point to campaign on, and many republicans benefit from immigrant H1-Bs and “none skilled” labor.

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        Republicans don’t view their female children as human.

        As a trans man who experienced sexual violence and domestic violence, “why did you let him do that to you?” And I’m persona non grata. My husband who took advantage of my state making it legal to fire me for being trans (and losing all access to independent finances) - he would be more welcome with my dads family than I am.

        My step-mom’s brother-in-law who got picked up by a police officer posing as a thirteen year old with drugs - that was just a little mistake.

        Republicans don’t view AFAB people as people.

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        They care if THEIRS do, sure. Just not if others do. Or if theirs are forced into a sub-optimal life in order to make the the man’s life better.

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    NYT is calling it for Trump. America as we know it, may be over.

    The war in Ukraine is about to end, with Russia probably getting everything they want, NATO might disband, China likely takes Taiwan, 100 years of authoritarianism and tyranny may be upon us after Trump truly consolidates powers, and nukes the Federal government.

    I fucking wish I was being hyperbolic.

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      Nah, we’re gonna balkanize sooner or later. Economy is fucked beyond fucked. (Thank you Reagan) It won’t be able to keep going. Especially not with republicans at the tiller. The end of the US will be the same as every other empire. But with nukes.

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          Stagnant wages, weakened unions, at-will employment, low corporate taxes, etc. All Reaganomics. Supply side economics. Basically destroyed the economic powerhouse that won the Cold War. It’s still a goliath, but instead of an immovable industrial bullwark its all debt driven gambling now. Speculation and financialization.

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            And who moved shit to China so it’s now much worse? Bill Clinton.

            And now not even US/EU cars are competitive anymore. Boeing is in decline. Intel is dying.
            Go into any store - nothing made in US anymore.

            Accept responsibility - it’s a Democrat bill Clinton doing

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      America as we know it, may be over

      Stop. I can only get so hard

      The war in Ukraine is about to end

      Damn, if only we had listened to the people calling for a negotiated peace since the first moment instead of calling them Putin bots…

      NATO might disband

      As a western European, I fucking wish, but you’re too hopeful for that. NATO is exclusively a force for evil, and the only interventions that it’s carried out are the bombing of Yugoslavia and the bombing of Libya, the latter resulting in a decade of civil wars that destroyed the formerly most prosperous country in Africa. Extraofficially (not technically NATO), also the invasion of Iraq. How is literally any of that good.

      100 years of authoritarianism

      The US has never been anything different from that. It’s based on the genocide of natives, on slavery of imported Africans, and the decisions made at the government are consistently against the will and the interests of the majority.

      Down with the US empire

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      I like the part about Ukraine. Also don’t care about Taiwan.
      But kinda wish democracy maintains in us.

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        You won’t care about Taiwan until your iPhone costs $3000, then you might realize it was worth defending

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          Most American comment, talk about the end of democracy for millions of people and death of thousands, worry about the price of their iphone

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            They’ve been trying to move chip fabricators to the US for decades. The education system is shit here and we don’t have the talent. Also it’s really difficult to get the fabricators right and built for a reasonable cost. So yeah. Your non-iphone is gonna be pricey.

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                The CHIPS act? You mean one of the things the Biden admin bragged about?

                Good thing the incoming administration isn’t petty enough to nuke anything associated with the previous administration…

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                  You mean one of the things the Biden admin bragged about?

                  yeah.

                  Good thing the incoming administration isn’t petty enough to nuke anything associated with the previous administration…

                  that would be unfortunate.

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                Remember when the US government gave the telecoms billions to build gigabit internet infrastructure nationwide and they fuckin just didn’t do it?

                Pepperidge Farm remembers. Show me a working fab as a result of that act after Trump and Co manage to not fuck it up and then your comment might have some merit. Note: the coming brain drain will not be kind to the USA.

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                  Remember when the US government gave the telecoms billions to build gigabit internet infrastructure nationwide and they fuckin just didn’t do it?

                  me too, i also remember in 1930, when the great depression happened. I don’t see the relevance here though.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act#Impact

                  shit in r&d is not like throwing money at big corpo and hoping they do what you want. If you don’t turn out results in r&d, it’s a dead field.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CHIPS_and_Science_Act#Project_announcements

                  plenty of project announcements, idk if you think the government can’t like, build buildings or something, even though they can make the interstate highway system. But in defense of the CHIPS, building fabs is really fucking hard, costs billions of dollars, and takes many, many years.

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            Whatever device you use to post this message is impacted.