• SulaymanF@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    This argument is based on no facts at all. There’s no polling data showing that Gaza was even a top 3 issue among voters, and Trump won Michigan by a margin so big that it was more than every Arab-American in the entire state and then some.

    AND everyone in North Gaza will be dead by New Years because the UN reports no food has been allowed to be delivered in over a month and the “Generals Plan” in Israel says everyone who didn’t evacuate will be treated as a Hamas fighter and killed on sight. That’s ALL on Biden without Trump even entering the White House yet. Biden doesn’t even airdrop food anymore. So bashing this as a “but Trump will turn Gaza into glass” is a moot point since Biden will have killed everyone there months beforehand.

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      9 days ago

      There’s no polling data showing that Gaza was even a top 3 issue among voters

      I didn’t say it was. As you may note from my comment.

      So it speaks more to apathy than genocide

      is a moot point since Biden will have killed everyone there months beforehand

      One, neither Biden nor Trump are killing anyone. It’s the permissive nature of the United States and their supplies.

      Two, Israel isn’t in a position to carry out the operation that you are indicating. They’re still far short supplied on that front. Over the weekend ahead of the election, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin indicated that the negotiated terms for aid had failed, which clears the path for the US to end weapons delivery to the country under a Leahy determination. Now of course Trump will resume those shipments, but critical missile deployments are likely to end for the time being, especially seeing how it doesn’t matter if Biden or Harris secure shit in votes.

      Three, the UN World Food Programme has indicated about 10% of their target supply mission for aid is getting through. So there is indeed food, just not enough to feed everyone.

      The thing is, the suffering will likely continue long into 2026 because Israel has every intention of sending a very clear message for future Hamas recruits. And you have a hard time sending a clear message with just dead people. The suffering and the pain is the point of what Israel is doing. The land is a nice bonus, but just killing everyone outright doesn’t show the level of suffering that Israel can actually implement. It’s that being able to drag one’s pain and misery out for years on end that Israel is after.

      If Israel wanted to carpet bomb the place, they would have asked for that at the start before the relationship soured.

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        9 days ago

        neither Biden nor Trump are killing anyone

        Biden has publicly said that a country supplying weapons is just as guilty as the one using those weapons. He was talking about Iran giving Russia weapons that are used against Ukrainians, and he’s a hypocrite if he pretends Israel is any different, particularly when he is the one vetoing ceasefires at the UN and rewarding Netanyahu for refusing to take ceasefire deals.

        “Correction, 10% of the food is entering Gaza” means famine will continue and mass starvation. A war crime against literal millions of people. Do you think that being slightly off on the death toll means it’s acceptable?

        Israel has every intention of sending a very clear message for future Hamas recruits

        Israel has tried this strategy for 30 years and it never worked and will not work. You’re basically pushing a “bomb them until they love us” strategy.

        70% of the buildings are destroyed. Tent cities were set on fire. Palestinians burned alive in hospital beds. It’s virtually indistinguishable from carpet bombing.