• J Lou@mastodon.social
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    21 hours ago

    How can this be a rejection of the far left when Harris campaigned as a moderate (e.g. Cheney)? If republican voters are going to think Democrats are communist regardless of how moderate the Democrats are, maybe moderating isn’t a good strategy. If the only choice is between right-wing and lite right-wing, right-wing voters will choose the real thing. Even then, Trumpists will still call democrats communists.

    Many left polices are popular when they aren’t labelled as left

    @theonion

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      11 hours ago

      Exactly. Every Democrat ever nominated is on the radical left, or is one of the “most liberal,” according to the Republican propaganda machine.

      But their base is generally super ignorant of the rest of the world so it works. They have no frame of reference for what left and right really are, or how other societies function and get better results.

      But that is asking a lot of them. These are the people who lined up to vote for the ticket with the VP that previously called the nominee America’s Hitler. Asking them to consider the finer points of leftist policies improving human lives on the other side of the world is like getting your dog to switch to Linux. There are just so many basic pieces missing that it’s hard to choose where to start.

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      17 hours ago

      Thats the fun part, people consider dems “far left” because… Reasons, I guess? This country is so far right just the idea of building more housing counts as communist.

          • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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            18 minutes ago

            This is what gets me. Like it’s been proven to be a bad policy. So when people say it’s bad do people equate that with “leftist ideas are bad”? Like if leftists want support you should lead with ideas that aren’t bad according to actual data. There are plenty of ways to increase housing and do a ton of other stuff that has data backing it as being an effective use of funds.

            Same with affordable housing. We had a ballot measure to basically make a big pot of money and “support affordable housing.” How? It certainly makes zero sense to build new housing out of that pot (ie. it’s expensive as fuck.) Do you just subsidize? What are the criteria? And what are you doing to affect the root issue that is lack of actual supply of housing? Are you cutting red tape? Are you removing minimum parking requirements? Are you developing transit and relaxing building codes (ie. higher is good) at certain lengths from transit stops?

            I’ve long seen way too many leftist ideas that are more good feeling than good thought. Which is admirable to some extent but it also shows why they fail. Especially when you take into account that it would help the extremely marginalized but you’re also now asking the already poor “middle class” to foot yet more bills for something that they won’t directly see any benefit from.

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            6 hours ago

            No it’s not, it’s a great policy, it just needs to be supplemented by incentives to build or direct government building programs.