• Steve@communick.news
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    10 days ago

    The Democrats threw it away.
    For several races now they’ve been told by many actual progressives, they need to embrace economic-populism. They refused to. Instead embracing the Cheneys. They got out played by a convicted felon, who’s older than his IQ (thanks to another lemmon for that line. I love it).

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      10 days ago

      Man… don’t take this language personally. It’s just the only way I know how to speak right now.

      In what fucking world do you think a more progressive candidate would’ve turned Michigan and Pennsylvania blue?

      Christ. I hope I’m fucking wrong. Because I do believe in a more progressive agenda. And I’m in Michigan. But this takeaway is absolutely fucking nuts to me.

      The last thing we need is for the hardcore blue states to be even bluer while the battleground states are all red.

      I don’t know, man. Explain your math to me. Because I can’t wrap my head around it. But I haven’t slept in like 36 hours, either, so maybe it’s just me.

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        9 days ago

        I didn’t say progressive. Progressive is a very broad term that can apply to all sorts of things.

        I said economic-populist. One of the few things nearly all of us agree on in this country, is that the corporations and the ownership class have too much power in politics, and they’re getting that power by stealing money from the working class. Trump was good at speaking to that, without actually doing much to help. The Democrats did some to help. But not enough, and they didn’t want to sell it much for fear of scaring off the ownership/donor class.

        Leave behind all the racial, sexual, social justice progressive stuff. It’s divisive and won’t help you win. Helping the poor generally, will disproportionately help those people more anyway. Just without putting them in the spot light.

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        10 days ago

        Harris lost Michigan by fewer votes than the number of people who voted “uncommitted” in the primary.

        I don’t think the lesson here is to be more moderate or more conservative.

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          10 days ago

          You know, uncommitted doesn’t really bother me. Had I bothered voting in the primary, I’d probably have voted uncommitted, too. Because I’m not really happy about the administration’s handling of the Israel-Gaza situation.

          But I damn sure voted for Kamala yesterday. I hope the Jill Stein voters feel really fucking smug about teaching Democrats a lesson when Trump tells Netanyahu to just push all the Muslims into the fucking ocean, and sells them the bulldozers to do it. I hope they all fucking cheer when they watch it livestreamed, Xclusively on X.

          Because I assume that’s what they wanted out of this election, and by gum, they fucking got it.

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            9 days ago

            I wonder if democrats feel good about supporting (leadership) or excusing (voters) genocide because they thought they had to to win, but lost anyway.