You have correctly understood drag’s reason for believing what drag believes. Now, drag has a hypothesis as to what rebuttal you just offered, but it’s quite bewildering, so please be patient as drag asks: Is your rebuttal of the idea of the necessity of choice, that if we believed people to be responsible for the choices they don’t make, then we would have to believe the Democrats are absolved of guilt?
Because what?
Wait… wait wait wait… okay, drag is starting to understand your point of view, drag hopes. You’re saying we can’t believe voters have any blame for the results of the election, because that would mean the Democrats can’t have any blame. Because blame is a finite resource and must be carefully rationed?
No. Blame is an infinite resource. Two people can both be 100% to blame for the same thing. The Democrats and the voters can both be bad. Drag thinks drag understands why you keep insisting drag thinks the Dems are good now. It’s because drag is blaming two different groups, and you think that’s impossible, so you assume drag is lying and actually only blaming the voters. Isn’t it?
I have repeatedly been talking about non-voters: those who stayed home.
Blame the repub voters, sure, I guess, and there’s no reason to blame dem voters.
But don’t blame non-voters for failing to be won over by a centrist platform that shows an unconditional backing of a fascist authoritarian and his genocide. Blame it on the DNC, Harris, and Biden. They made the choice to not actively support a genocide, or chose not to support a slow march to fascism versus a fast one, or whatever other nonsense reason you think justifies your world view.
Now understand mine: the liberals have told the left/progressive side since 2016 that it’s both their fault, and that if they get their support in 2020, they’ll be willing to start supporting progressive policies.
The voting base took a vocal stand on genocide, to reiterate, genocide, demanding their party move left on the issue. With Democracy on the line, and years of bad political capital with their progressive/left voting base, the DNC opted to continue unconditional support for genocide. Being perpetuated by a fascist leader, who worked with their fascist opponent during the campaign.
They didn’t ask for $40/hr minimum wage, they didn’t demand free puppies for everyone or some unrealistic ideal. They wanted compromise on genocide, and the DNC said no. The DNC waved off a good chunk of their voting base and were surprised when they actually took a stand.
Non voters didn’t have a choice, like you keep saying. They had opposite sides of the same coin, and as I pointed out above when talking about how their pundits are screaming about wokism and trans people and the left side of the party, are blaming anyone but themselves.
If they acknowledged their own faults, sure, I’d entertain your argument. Or if it was something like M4A being a significant wedge issue for voters or something, sure, because it’s not genocide. But they, and you, keep doubling down on unquestioned support of the least evil being the only correct choice.
I’m saying that’s wrong, those who abstained from voting for either are at least cleansed of actively supporting a genocide, regardless of whatever their actual individual reason was. And acting like choosing the least evil makes you right is exactly the liberal condescension non voters are tired of.
It assumes that your moral definition of the world is the only correct one, arguing for the greater good (which I would argue should have come from the DNC not supporting a genocide unconditionally first) while dismissing an individual’s own definition. To assume your position is to assume that your world view, and er go, your interpretation of the world, is the only correct one.
Like I said, Democracy was on the line, so why couldn’t the DNC compromise one policy for their voting base? They compromised on fracking, didn’t show support for M4A, showed support for continuing border security as is, etc. So why not genocide? Why was that a line in the sand for them despite vocal opposition from their voting base?
Drag got it yet? You’re not morally superior for supporting a genocide, and that’s only one of many reasons someone may have chosen not to support either candidate. And they’re all valid, but the blame doesn’t go to them. It goes to the DNC who thought it better to turn right and try to win moderates as the Republican-lite candidate instead of tapping into 60% of the voting base that doesn’t vote. It goes to the DNC who couldn’t ensure that “did Biden drop out” wasn’t going to be one of the most searched things on election day with better messaging during the campaign.
But no, let’s keep blaming them, and insulting and condescending and acting superior to them, the non voter, because they didn’t understand Democracy was on the line and wouldn’t compromise for the greater good. I understand you want to assign them blame, but that needs to be directed back at the DNC. So two-fold blame on the DNC for drag.
You have correctly understood drag’s reason for believing what drag believes. Now, drag has a hypothesis as to what rebuttal you just offered, but it’s quite bewildering, so please be patient as drag asks: Is your rebuttal of the idea of the necessity of choice, that if we believed people to be responsible for the choices they don’t make, then we would have to believe the Democrats are absolved of guilt?
Because what?
Wait… wait wait wait… okay, drag is starting to understand your point of view, drag hopes. You’re saying we can’t believe voters have any blame for the results of the election, because that would mean the Democrats can’t have any blame. Because blame is a finite resource and must be carefully rationed?
No. Blame is an infinite resource. Two people can both be 100% to blame for the same thing. The Democrats and the voters can both be bad. Drag thinks drag understands why you keep insisting drag thinks the Dems are good now. It’s because drag is blaming two different groups, and you think that’s impossible, so you assume drag is lying and actually only blaming the voters. Isn’t it?
I have repeatedly been talking about non-voters: those who stayed home.
Blame the repub voters, sure, I guess, and there’s no reason to blame dem voters.
But don’t blame non-voters for failing to be won over by a centrist platform that shows an unconditional backing of a fascist authoritarian and his genocide. Blame it on the DNC, Harris, and Biden. They made the choice to not actively support a genocide, or chose not to support a slow march to fascism versus a fast one, or whatever other nonsense reason you think justifies your world view.
Now understand mine: the liberals have told the left/progressive side since 2016 that it’s both their fault, and that if they get their support in 2020, they’ll be willing to start supporting progressive policies.
The voting base took a vocal stand on genocide, to reiterate, genocide, demanding their party move left on the issue. With Democracy on the line, and years of bad political capital with their progressive/left voting base, the DNC opted to continue unconditional support for genocide. Being perpetuated by a fascist leader, who worked with their fascist opponent during the campaign.
They didn’t ask for $40/hr minimum wage, they didn’t demand free puppies for everyone or some unrealistic ideal. They wanted compromise on genocide, and the DNC said no. The DNC waved off a good chunk of their voting base and were surprised when they actually took a stand.
Non voters didn’t have a choice, like you keep saying. They had opposite sides of the same coin, and as I pointed out above when talking about how their pundits are screaming about wokism and trans people and the left side of the party, are blaming anyone but themselves.
If they acknowledged their own faults, sure, I’d entertain your argument. Or if it was something like M4A being a significant wedge issue for voters or something, sure, because it’s not genocide. But they, and you, keep doubling down on unquestioned support of the least evil being the only correct choice.
I’m saying that’s wrong, those who abstained from voting for either are at least cleansed of actively supporting a genocide, regardless of whatever their actual individual reason was. And acting like choosing the least evil makes you right is exactly the liberal condescension non voters are tired of.
It assumes that your moral definition of the world is the only correct one, arguing for the greater good (which I would argue should have come from the DNC not supporting a genocide unconditionally first) while dismissing an individual’s own definition. To assume your position is to assume that your world view, and er go, your interpretation of the world, is the only correct one.
Like I said, Democracy was on the line, so why couldn’t the DNC compromise one policy for their voting base? They compromised on fracking, didn’t show support for M4A, showed support for continuing border security as is, etc. So why not genocide? Why was that a line in the sand for them despite vocal opposition from their voting base?
Drag got it yet? You’re not morally superior for supporting a genocide, and that’s only one of many reasons someone may have chosen not to support either candidate. And they’re all valid, but the blame doesn’t go to them. It goes to the DNC who thought it better to turn right and try to win moderates as the Republican-lite candidate instead of tapping into 60% of the voting base that doesn’t vote. It goes to the DNC who couldn’t ensure that “did Biden drop out” wasn’t going to be one of the most searched things on election day with better messaging during the campaign.
But no, let’s keep blaming them, and insulting and condescending and acting superior to them, the non voter, because they didn’t understand Democracy was on the line and wouldn’t compromise for the greater good. I understand you want to assign them blame, but that needs to be directed back at the DNC. So two-fold blame on the DNC for drag.