Linux just gained another .13% usage, while Windows lost .23. Another win for Linux

  • flashgnash@lemm.ee
    463·
    22 days ago

    It’s interesting that windows 10 lost more than windows 11 gained, .09% of users jumped ship because they didn’t want windows 11

  • N3Cr0@lemmy.world
    291·
    22 days ago

    Chill! That’s only 2% in total. We can feel happy for Valve doing the pioneer work and maintaining software for Linux.

    • dustyData@lemmy.world
      21·
      22 days ago

      Percentages can hide the impact of tendencies. Steam has 132MM monthly active users, assuming the poll is a representative sample. Then, 2% is a bit over 2.6MM people using a linux device. This doesn’t include steamOS. That’s at least equivalent to an entire small country’s population using Linux.

      • bruhSoulz@lemmy.mlEnglish
        3·
        22 days ago

        Hey, where u get those numbers from?? I thought they stopped disclosing these a few yrs back. Personally I would’ve guessed its closer to 150m myself but I’d like to see any reports or more informed speculation if possible.

        • N3Cr0@lemmy.world
          12·
          22 days ago

          Linux has always enjoyed better game support than MacOS. Even before Valve’s efforts, it was possible to get most games running - sometimes fine, but often with bugs or defunct features. Some games ran even better with wine than on a modern Windows installation of its time.

          However, this does not mean it was easy.

          • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
            4·
            22 days ago

            That old joke from like 2003 still rings true:

            “You know which games are good on Mac because they already came out 5-10 years ago.” 😂

        • itsJoelle@lemmy.world
          12·
          22 days ago

          NGL, a few more rounds of sweet Asahi releases Linux might be better for gaming on the M1 series over MacOS. The devs actually have a Vulcan support built. Apple never bothered, lol.

    • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
      1·
      22 days ago

      The survey is just accepting to send some auto collected data. There is no “real survey” involved.

  • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
    7·
    22 days ago

    Does Archlinux include SteamOS? Why isn’t SteamOS not listed, but several versions of Ubuntu is listed separately? Wasn’t SteamOS making up about half the Steam users using Linux? I would like to see multiple ways and options to enable and disable for Linux grouping, and longer lists. It may be enough for MacOS or Windows, but not for Linux.

        • HouseWolf@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          22 days ago

          Since it separates Manjaro I’d assume it also does it for other Arch based distros with their own branding like Endeavour or Artix?

        • padge@lemmy.zipEnglish
          2·
          22 days ago

          I know it used to, but it must have changed since I remember. Didn’t see Holo when I looked at the survey this morning either, I guess that’s what I get for commenting before I have coffee

          • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
            4·
            22 days ago

            It only shows up when you use the dropdown menu to filter for Linux only. Then you also will see Freedesktop SDK (Flatpak). For whatever reason Flatpak and SteamOS Holo are ignored if you look at all operating systems instead Linux only. If you compare the numbers, they are not added to Archlinux or anything else.

  • kryptonidas@lemmings.world
    21·
    22 days ago

    If you run Steam under Wine or variant under Linux which I assume many do, does that count as Windows or Linux?

    • four@lemmy.zipEnglish
      7·
      22 days ago

      I don’t think I’ve seen anyone run Steam through Wine. What would be the reasons for that?

      • kevincox@lemmy.ml
        9·
        22 days ago

        It used to be common and useful. I did this even after Valve shipped a native Linux TF2 as at the beginning the Wine method gave better results on my hardware. But that time has long passed as Valve has integrated Wine (Proton) and in almost all cases the Linux native builds will outperform Wine (and Steam will let you use the Windows version via Proton if you want even if there is a native Linux build).

        So while I suspect that there are still a few people doing this out of momentum, habit or reading old tutorials I am not aware of any good reasons to do this anymore.

          • kevincox@lemmy.ml
            5·
            22 days ago
            1. Launching Steam games outside of Steam can be very difficult. Some games outright won’t allow it.
            2. Steam provides native libraries such as the overlay, networking and matchmaking tools, achievements… You need to have Windows versions of these which wouldn’t be distributed by default in the Linux version of Steam.
            3. In the past Steam just didn’t run under Linux, so you had no other option.
      • Sickday@kbin.earth
        1·
        21 days ago

        I haven’t used it in a while, but last time I tried Lutris there were many games that relied on the Steam on Wine runner.

      • kryptonidas@lemmings.world
        1·
        22 days ago

        Oh, does it allow you on Linux to download all games with the native client? On the Mac that doesn’t work, so then I run it through Wine.

        • four@lemmy.zipEnglish
          6·
          22 days ago

          On Linux you can run native version of Steam, which then uses Wine (actually Proton, which is based on Wine) for running games. So Steam is not wrapped within Wine, but the games are (if needed/enabled)

        • kevincox@lemmy.ml
          5·
          22 days ago

          There is an option in settings to allow trying all games. By default it only allows it for tested and verified games. But it is a simple checkbox then you can download and run any Windows game.

        • noodlejetski@lemm.ee
          5·
          22 days ago

          does it allow you on Linux to download all games with the native client?

          yes, and then you run them using Proton, Valve’s tool based on Wine, specially made for doing exactly that.

        • HouseWolf@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          22 days ago

          Steam on Linux has it’s own version of wine(proton) built in.

          So you can launch Windows games through the Linux native Steam client.