The notion that any person can be “pure evil” in a way that is essential to their being implies the existence of some in-born quality stronger than any amount of their material conditions. This notion is both essentialist and anti-Marxist. Are Zionists evil? Yeah, but they’re running the same hardware as you and I, their material conditions have just led them down this path that we have been able to avoid.
No such thing as “pure evil”, thats fucking cringe idealist nonsense. Zionists are people with material interests.
The zionist movement objective is purely materialistic, they want to forcefully settle that region (and thus kill everyone opposed). They use idealistic nonsense to try and justify it and fail miserably at it.
Also Zionists aren’t limited to Jewish Israelis who have been taught from birth to hate Palestinians. There are more Christian Zionists than Jewish Zionists etc, these Zionists love Israel for more selfish reasons.
The worst kind of Zionists imo are the Fetterman types who weren’t brainwashed from birth and defend Israel while pretending to be progressive.
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Palestinians hate israelis because they killed their family, israelis hate palestinians because they fought back. Its very simple.
How can you hate someone as a baby dumbass
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Bitch kill yourself
Debate nerd bitch ass I’m not going to dignify you by giving you any of my time. Go suck off destiny or whatever.
“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” David Ben-Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
There’s no such thing as pure evil, but I see no reason treating them like as if they aren’t. Those who support settler-colonialism, are the scum of the earth; each and every one deserves to be seen as effectively no different from Hitler (who himself also was not pure evil). IMO there are some acts, genocide and colonialism chief amongst them- which sever the perpetrator’s being from the rest of humanity- not indefinitely, but by continuous choice, on their part, to do so.
Those who support settler-colonialism, are the scum of the earth;
Exactly where I sit. For me and where my struggle against settlerdom is concerned, it’s essentialist and frankly wrong to call every single white person ever the devil, incapable of empathy and unworthy of love; but it’s perfectly level to accuse the neocolonial of such. ‘Caucasian’ isn’t a choice, but ‘Cracker’ is-- to bring it back to the topic point, much like their older brother settlers regarding the state of Israel and its relation to Amerika, being born Jewish isn’t exactly a choice, but becoming a Zionist is.
Embracing settlerdom is a choice; a vile and evil one that I see no reason to not label such. If anything, you’re gentler than me-- I see no path to rehabilitation or reparation for the genocidal; and this encompasses the neocolonial settler as far as I care to see it.
No such thing as brainwashing:
Thinking in terms of moralism is not productive imo
It doesn’t matter if they are evil or not. It’s a destructive ideology. It’s anti-human. And above all it’s scientifically wrong.
Like racism (I mean not that Zionism isn’t racist but w.e), it’s factually wrong and it has no positive outcomes for humans as a whole. It serves no purpose for humanity, only for specific people.
If Zionists can’t see the factuality of their ideology being wrong and negative, we (people who wish to improve life for all humanity and all life) should treat them as enemies. Like all people who live by ideological spooks like those.
But I still believe the best weapon against ideology is discourse and radicalisation. It’s easier to persuade most people than to Minecraft them. Just being objective here. And also, me personally, don’t like violence.
So I feel all in all, you should analyse people on an individual level to get where they are. Then figure out a path to radicalise them. And just try it. You might not succeed, but pushing someone just a bit to the left might be enough to keep them away from the wrong side when the time comes y’know.
I disagree, its much easier to minecraft people than it is to persuade them, thats exactly the reason they wage war. You just can’t persuade someone out of their material interests.
Individuals, I agree. But not groups, not masses of people. Wars are fought because the people who architect them will benefit. The people who fight can be radicalised and persuaded. The people at the top can’t.
But also, I feel with more and more development in sociology, biology and ecology, it’s harder and harder for anyone to argue that capitalism is beneficial at all. Even to the guys at the top. They will likely die with the rest of us just the same.
Bingo. It’s hard to believe something that will make you evict yourself out of a free house. That requires force.
Yes.
Pure evil. 100%.
