This is such an annoying opinion.
The sync app dev is charging for a product. They know they have a market, albeit narrow. The income will be chunky and consistent.
The Lemmy devs provide a free platform and ask for donations. They know they have a market. It’s enormous. The income is gratuity.
Neither party should be surprised about who is raking in how much cash or why. I’m sure they’re not.
No user should be confused about why both parties are doing what they’re doing. No one should be confused about how it’s going for them. But for some reason y’all won’t stfu about it.
It’s just so asinine.
Leave reddit cause you can’t use your preferred app anymore. Come to Lemmy, and get beat over the head for your choice of preferred app.
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plus it is a subscription model.
There is a non-subscription model that also disables the admob tracking.
I am pro-facts
But not nuances, it feels.
That’s not just a feeling. They professionally cherry picked facts to try to generate outrage. And threw any context out the window along the way.
I have never seen a website so consistently entitled. It changes my sympathetic view of the left into a need to self reflect and maybe ensure those sympathies get solid, unwavering boundaries.
No one is entitled to other people’s stuff. We can credibly argue whether value is flowing to the right places, but that’s not what I’m seeing on lemmy in sync-bash posts.
Do you people just hate anyone who receives money?
Crabs in a barrel
*bucket
snatches at one of your aft claws get back down here you hothead!
Yes.
People in general are very interested in the politics of who deserves recognition (in whatever form) over others. Fundamentally it’s about an instinct towards “fairness.”
No. But focusing on supporting one single app instead of the platform is not sustainable for the platform. This meme is just a reminder to support the platform as well.
I haven’t seen a single call to action to donate to Lemmy other than the static sidebar on desktop. Something like that would be far more helpful than complaining about previous Sync users continuing to donate to Sync. Nothing is being taken from Lemmy, Sync already had a big user base and is bringing many of them over here thanks to the app. Let’s call to action to them to donate to instances instead of complaining.
Accurate. I used Sync for Reddit until they were forced out. I then switched to Sync for Lemmy for the familiar interface, the ease of setup, etc. Sync literally brought me to Lemmy.
Since then I looked around and still prefer this app. On a side note: why does the UI for Voyager on Android look like some old version of iOS?
Hate all you want but Sync being popular is a good thing for Lemmy adoption.
But you are the one focusing on supporting one single app?
Who are you speaking of? How many users are on sync versus all the others?
My opinion is that what matters is how much money each part of the network receives.
For example, instances tend to be transparent about their funding. And we can see that some of them are just months away of being out of cash. Meanwhile, we see people subscribing(!) to a very expensive app that charges $20 to remove ads (and tracking and data collecting) otherwise.
I think is okay to keep people aware of these things. Getting defensive about it is just a waste of energy. For both sides.
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You just gave away you have no idea what communism is.
nOt TrUe CoMmUnIsM
You would need an example to talk about that.
You smooth brains really stretch far for a meme eh?
Dam, I feel bad for people like you.
It’s what mainlaind Taiwan started with.
I’m gonna need some real sources for this… And maybe even a definition.
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“Communism is when the government does stuff.” -The wandering spirit of the head of a very real University
My initial impression of this instance is that Lemmy.ml is a short step away from Lemmygrad.
It’s more like one dev made the best user experience on lemmy, so people give him money. At least that’s the case for me.
Same. Dedicated sync for reddit user, now that sync for reddit is dead, I’ll follow the sync dev and support him with my Dollars
Use Lemmy, y’all!
Nooo not like that!
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“use my instance please”
“No not like that!”
Holy fuck this is what we left Reddit to avoid…
Lemmy had a garbage web UI. And the other apps I have used are not nearly as smooth as sync.
I mean isn’t that true for literally every user that doesn’t pay? I’m not sure why we are mad at Sync users when we don’t even have a strong call to action to donate to instances.
Maybe Lemmy instances should bill third party apps for API calls, hmmm?
You think Sync users don’t also donate? I paid for sync and donated to Lemmy’s development. Considering donating to my 2 main instances as well.
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We pay.
You assume.
It’s junior level reasoning.
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I just said we pay. You seem to think I’m talking about Sync.
I’m not. Technically, I guess I could be talking about both server and sync.
What I’ve seen on Lemmy is I can say I paid for Sync and donate to the server and someone will need to come along to tell me all of that money should go to Lemmy.
That’s too either/or. And it’s making Lemmy look… incapable of nuanced thought. Or entitled.
It’s not everyone, but it’s common enough it looks really odd.
How much has liftoff, jeroba, connect, etc paid?
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Ok so they’ve paid just as much is what you’re saying
lmao are you for real, if you don’t like it just use one of the other apps or just use it and don’t pay for it all of this complaining about it is just pathetic
I saw an earlier post that showed Lemmy’s recent rapid growth followed by a plateau and then slight decline. My feeling is that there is a very LOUD minority of Lemmy users that are trying to act as self-anointed gatekeepers and they’re bringing the platform down as a direct consequence. It makes the platform look petty and small to new and existing users alike. If the top posts are continually about shaming other users then this platform isn’t going to last. Let’s focus on building communities and having interesting conversations rather than one upping each other.
When Sync lauched it was all anyone was talking about. I don’t see the memes for and against Sync as people actually upset I just think it is the meta topic of the week. Like when beans were a meme following the “how can I not poop for three days?”
I just wanted to tell you how happy I was to see the Netscape logo as your icon. Brought me back to the old days of the internet.
Thanks, I’m glad it made you happy. I love how it manages to get so much detail despite being so low resolution.
that may or may not be the case, but the reality of the situation is that it makes the whole foss community look a whole lot more off putting
The Poop Warrior shall live on in our memories.
Nailed it. Some users are intent on making this reddit 2.0 with all the baggage. Ive seen entire subs be spam downvoted because some user had the time and hate.
They spent a month shitting on reddit now there’s something new to shit on
It’s me. I’m the loud minority. Redditors go home!
very LOUD minority
self-anointed gatekeepers
top posts are continually about shaming other users
Crabs in a bucket. No one’s allowed to succeed, unless everyone™ does.
🥰
It would be unnecessary if Lemmy’s web UI was actually reasonable. As it is, every single time I open the app, I have to log in again, then refresh the page to see anything at all. The news feed is paginated rather than endless scroll. When I press the back button on a comment thread, it takes me back to the page before the one I was looking at, so I lose my place. It’s borderline unusable.
So I guess I’ll give my ad eyeballs to the app that actually works.
every single time I open the app, I have to log in again, then refresh the page to see anything at all
That doesn’t happen to me, check your browser.
Oh no my $20 for a lifetime purchase of removing ads from an app I’ve enjoyed using for like a decade. 🥱
I think the point of the post is ain’t nobody donating $20 to the Lemmy platform or host or other apps
This meme implies that Sync is taking all the donations though. The people donating to Sync didn’t stop donating to Lemmy to do so
Yea this is the thing I keep saying. Who cares about if you’re paying $20 for an app if that’s what you want to do. Just remember to help out the instances who are running things to make that app work. I think a lot of people realize this and that’s great, but I’m sure some people also don’t. So, instead of circlejerking about Sync being $20, it would have been better for make one or two posts days ago with that reminder and leave it be. Instead, we see the circlejerk continuing days later.
I agree. Although I was surprised that my insurance rejected all forms of donation. It’s pretty small, though.
My instance shut down donos because they were bringing in way more than they needed and are sitting on years of server costs at current usage. I was donating when they were open, though.
A new platform like Lemmy needs to establish trust and reliability for a certain time period before it can expect people to give back something. Something that the Sync developer has established already for a decade now.
Assuming that Lemmy continues to flourish well, I will be perfectly happy to donate to Lemmy, in fact I’m quite sure that in the long run I’ll donate a lot more to Lemmy than the one time purchase cost of Sync.
Sir that’s not your $20, that’s ops money to decide what you do with it
Could always run his own Lemmy server for Sync users, I guess. Could take the load off some of the others.
I downloaded Sync and thought wow nice ui, maybe I sould buy the adless version. Then I thought wtf, why is this so fucking expensive?
this is dumb, sync is free
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It literally is. All premium options are a choice.
Ad removal lifetime is $20, Ultra (which brings extra features) is subscription based and a little more expensive.
free is considered to mean libre not gratis here
sync is proprietary
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Ad-supported software is not free.
“Freemium”
Alright your meme worked.
I already bought Sync, but I’m on lemmy every day, and my instance doesn’t accept donations. May as well pitch in a little bit.
I know I’m probably in the minority here but… I’m a desk jockey.
I don’t use Lemmy on a handheld. I didn’t use Reddit that way either. The web interface works well enough for me, or rather whatever lemmy.ca uses is good when set to vaporwave-light. Try the different themes, some are better than others.
The pagination though… it’s a little short for my taste but I prefer it over doomscrolling.
Why would people do this? We want the hughest amount of users we can, and for most people to believe in FOSS or even copyleft philosophy, but this just pushes people away. Just use whatever app you like best and maybe donate to incentivize the app you believe in. But to just relenlessly mock non-FOSS apps only hurts the community and doesn’t foster growth.
