Yeah so, I did not expect to have this reaction to a powerful woman running, and I certainly didn’t experience anything like it with Hillary, and honestly it is probably toxic at base, but, uh…
Shows that America didn’t reject women presidents in 2016 so much as it rejected Hillary. The next step on a carefully laid out career path does not a great president make.
If she had divorced Bill in the 00s, she might have had a chance. Staying with her blatantly cheating former president husband just looked like an old school “divorce is bad optics” decision rather than a more feminist “I don’t need a husband that doesn’t treat me well”. Which didn’t work well when she was trying to run as the latter.
Her entitlement didn’t help, neither did the Democrat establishment working to prevent the progressive option but being willing to back her. Neither did empowering Trump as an opponent she thought she’d get an easy win for when in reality she was the perfect candidate for him to run against.
Even if she made every right choice, the Republicans had been smearing her name for 24 years before she ran for president. Her attempt to simultaneously be elected most entitled person certainly didn’t help. But I think that’s why we nominated Biden in 2020. The watch word was electability because we all saw what decades of FUD did to Hillary.
It’s hard to separate cause and effect there. Was she unliked because of the FUD or did the FUD stick because she was unliked?
It was a close election so it was a perfect storm of a bunch of things lining up all at once. Given how close it was, if the FUD did cause the outcome, avoiding some of those errors might have been enough to win.
I used to know folks who worked in government and I heard several times that Clinton was very unpleasant to all of the secret service staff too. Could be bullshit but when looking at everything else about her, it tracks.
Yeah so, I did not expect to have this reaction to a powerful woman running, and I certainly didn’t experience anything like it with Hillary, and honestly it is probably toxic at base, but, uh…
Ka-mommy.
Shows that America didn’t reject women presidents in 2016 so much as it rejected Hillary. The next step on a carefully laid out career path does not a great president make.
If she had divorced Bill in the 00s, she might have had a chance. Staying with her blatantly cheating former president husband just looked like an old school “divorce is bad optics” decision rather than a more feminist “I don’t need a husband that doesn’t treat me well”. Which didn’t work well when she was trying to run as the latter.
Her entitlement didn’t help, neither did the Democrat establishment working to prevent the progressive option but being willing to back her. Neither did empowering Trump as an opponent she thought she’d get an easy win for when in reality she was the perfect candidate for him to run against.
Even if she made every right choice, the Republicans had been smearing her name for 24 years before she ran for president. Her attempt to simultaneously be elected most entitled person certainly didn’t help. But I think that’s why we nominated Biden in 2020. The watch word was electability because we all saw what decades of FUD did to Hillary.
It’s hard to separate cause and effect there. Was she unliked because of the FUD or did the FUD stick because she was unliked?
It was a close election so it was a perfect storm of a bunch of things lining up all at once. Given how close it was, if the FUD did cause the outcome, avoiding some of those errors might have been enough to win.
Nah, I understand that sometimes you love people who hurt you. Staying with Bill was not a problem.
Her problem was that she couldn’t conceal her contempt for most people (or gave off an aura of self-superiority if you prefer that take).
She particularly gave off an air of scorn towards non-career women, which is pretty dumb when you need them to vote for you.
I voted for her, mind you, but went Bernie in the primary.
I used to know folks who worked in government and I heard several times that Clinton was very unpleasant to all of the secret service staff too. Could be bullshit but when looking at everything else about her, it tracks.
Up until election day Hillary was expected to win. If Trump wins in November, will you say that America rejected women presidents again?
America didn’t reject Hillary, the electoral college did. She actually got more votes than Trump did.
I’m sure that keeps her warm at night, but Trump still got elected.
Yeah, that’s fair, it might be premature still to say that. Also, Trump is more of a known factor this time around.
Stahp
Don’t be gross.
Yeah, everybody knows it’s “Momala”.
I’m just being real about what I’m wrestling with. I’m on a knife’s edge of shame as it is, don’t push me.
If you’re on the knifes edge of shame, then keep your creepy fetishes to yourself. Not in a public forum with a very serious topic.
Consider me chastised. I will endeavor to more appropriately match my tone to the topic in future, P00ptart. Very sorry to have creeped you out.
Kamala has mom energy. Walz has dad energy. What’s creepy about that? Seems downright wholesome, in fact.
Her step kids call her Momala