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    22 days ago

    Probably comes from the beef itself (corrected by someone else, came from the onions) since it’s an outbreak on a wide scale.

    McDonald’s workers where I live don’t wear gloves yet there’s no outbreak. Wearing gloves isn’t more sanitary (it increases the odds that people won’t clean their hands often enough), you still touch the gloves to put them on, if your hands are dirty the gloves are contaminated, if someone touches the gloves box with dirty hands then the surface is contaminated and cross contamination can happen every time someone takes a pair of gloves.

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      23 days ago

      THANK YOU.

      It’s not gross because he’s not wearing gloves, it’s gross because he probably never washes his hands after digging in his ass all day.

      Get your reasons this man is disgusting straight people!

      I wrote a similar comment about this exact same situation on another post but from a more healthcare oriented perspective. Specifically that unless you have open cuts / sores on your hands as a healthcare worker, clean but nonsterile gloves do not protect the patient! They are an OSHA requirement in place to protect the worker from exposure to bodily fluids and caustic cleaning chemicals. And for chemo you glove twice.

      Sterile gloves, which are used to protect a patient from infection and are used for surgeries and specific types of bedside procedures like urine catheterization, are packed in sealed packages in single pairs and must be applied in a highly specific way by a trained individual, the minimum license usually being an LPN and more often an RN.

      Unless that beef patty is acidic enough to burn your hands while preparing it (and if it is I shudder to think what it would do to a stomach) gloves out of a 100-count box ain’t protecting anybody from anything and at their worst are bamboozling people out of washing their damn hands.

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        23 days ago

        Plus, consider how much plastic waste that comes to. I’ve seen people describe them changing gloves several times an hour to comply with food safety laws. We don’t have outbreaks of this shit because people wash their hands and don’t rely on gloves.

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      22 days ago

      Cross contamination is so much worse than people think it is.

      Everything is pretty much contaminated all the time.

      I’d still want the illusion of the workers trying to be sanitary by wearing gloves.

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        22 days ago

        How about they actually are sanitary by washing their hands instead of relying on putting their dirty hands in gloves that they never clean?

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            22 days ago

            They’ll be even less if they don’t feel their hands being dirty because they’re wearing gloves.

            Cross contamination, ever heard about it? If you touch your gloves with contaminated hands then the gives are contraindicated, if you touch the box with contaminated hands then anyone who touch the box to get gloves are contaminating they’re gloves. The more shit you touch, the more you increase the odds of cross contamination, it’s that simple.

            You don’t know what these gloves touched during manufacturing, that doesn’t scare you? They’re not sterile, says so on the box. Even if they were, the second the box gets opened sterilization goes out the window because it’s not a controlled environment and everyone is using the same box.

            Gloves in the food industry are there to keep your fluids to yourself if you hurt your hands, the only other reason to use them is because of people like you who wrongly believe they’re more sanitary than just working with clean hands.

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              21 days ago

              I know cross contamination very well.

              I trust non-sterile gloves over supposedly “washed” hands, every day of the week.

              The number of people that use the toilet without washing, or even rinsing their hands afterwards is insanely high. People are disgusting.

              Simply put, I don’t trust fast food gloves to be sterile, never said I did. I just think they’re likely to be cleaner than the unwashed hands inside of them.

              Yes, they’re likely cross contaminated, but by the time I’m accepting the risk of having someone else prepare my next meal, i want to reduce the harm they can do to me as much as I can.

              Cross contaminated gloves are going to be less harmful than the hands that contaminated them.

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                21 days ago

                And these people contaminated their gloves when putting them on.

                Cross contaminated is contaminated, simple as that.

                Sorry buddy but I’ve got my certification in hygiene and sanitary conditions in a kitchen environment, my girlfriend does as well, she is also trained to give the course and is a dietician trained to work in healthcare. Those gloves are there for show to reassure people like you, that’s it that’s all.

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        Food service workers do not scrub down like OR personnel. They really need to wash their hands routinely and wear hairnets and not touch their privates. The whole thing of Subway employees donning a new pair of gloves for each sandwich is just theatre. Go into any professional kitchen away from public view and you will not see the cooks and chefs wearing gloves.

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        22 days ago

        Surgeons wear sterilized gloves. Do you think those 100 gloves boxes are sterile?

        How come food poisoning isn’t an issue where I live if cooks don’t wear gloves even though it’s the governmental norm? And I mean, in restaurants, in hospitals, in long term care buildings… No issues, no gloves… Weird right?

        Also, did you know that healthcare workers mostly don’t wear gloves unless there’s a risk THEY will be exposed to YOUR fluids? Same reason over here we still wear gloves in professional kitchens when there’s a risk that our fluids will come in contact with the food, i.e. if we cut ourselves.

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            22 days ago

            I never said it was, I said it’s ridiculous to think that gloves that come in boxes and aren’t meant to be used in sterile environments are cleaner than properly cleaned hands.

            Also, keep insulting people like that and you won’t go far in life.