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Summary
Masked neo-Nazis marched through Columbus, Ohio’s Short North neighborhood on Saturday, displaying swastika flags and making racist and antisemitic statements.
Police are investigating, and no arrests have been reported.
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine and Columbus officials condemned the display, emphasizing that hate and bigotry have no place in the state.
The incident follows a similar demonstration in Michigan last week, where masked protesters displayed Nazi flags outside a performance of The Diary of Anne Frank.
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The only correct response to this is delivered at muzzle velocity.
Get ready to see a lot more of this.
This is America now.
The majority voted for this. We wanted this.
3 of these guys marching down the street: a joke.
3,000 of these guys marching down the street: a nightmare.
Don’t lump me into the collective “we”.
Everyone shares some level of accountability, and I know nobody wants to hear it and will stomp and huff and gnash their teeth at the notion, but it’s true. Some carry a much larger chunk of that responsibility than others, from of course the people who didn’t care and didn’t vote, and the people who cared and still didn’t vote, to just the people who rolled their eyes every time someone posted a “political” picture in /r/funny and had to start a 300+ comment deep thread about how stupid politics is, down to the small pieces held by everyone who did everything right but never valued their community, didn’t make a stand against people saying and doing things we didn’t agree with, and lets not forget everyone who never involved themselves in their local elections even enough to vote for the people who represent them, they allowed many to go unchallenged and those people went on to prop up a government run by and representing a minority ideology.
We’re part of it. It’s our country and the majority decided to take America down this path.
We are “we” because we are part of this society.
I didn’t vote for it. I know, very clearly, what direction we’re headed in. Anyone that didn’t just float through their history classes with barely passing grades should know. But I still accept that I’m part of it. WE are a very stupid society.
WE CALL THEM NAZIS ABC
Screw tolerance some things need to be eradicated. I wish death in the most heinous way on these scum.
Punch Nazis in the Face Again.
The sack of shit Government of Putin and their neo-Nazi supporters. Every single WW II veteran rolled in their grave.
How did you manage to mix Putin into this one?
Who did you think is bolstering and growing the fascists in Europe and America through propaganda campaigns?
Russia is a nazi state.
In 2016, the GOP switched from the Grand Old Party to the Government of Putin.
Don’t worry, it won’t be long and they will not need to mask anymore.
You only hide your face if you’re proud of something that you’re probably not supposed to be proud of…
Or you fear being harassed by the cops… oh wait nvm.
Exactly. Some of them may actually be cops. They always get some number of facists.
“They always get some number of facists.”
My observation is that if they didn’t start out that way, they sure end up that way.
And yes, I resisted the temptation to make a joke about “facists”
Why are you putting “fascist” in quotes when we’re talking about a march literally displaying Nazi flags?
Maybe I’m mistaken in thinking Nazis are fascists?
Why are you putting “fascist” in quotes when we’re talking about a march literally displaying Nazi flags?
Slow down, you read too fast.
“facists” vs fascists.
Fair enough.
I hate Ohio Nazis.
Ohio Nazis aren’t real Nazis.
If they don’t come from the 1944 Germany region, they are sparkling fascists.
Indeed, we need the 1974 Dodge Monaco…“It’s got a cop motor, a 440-cubic-inch plant. It’s got cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks. It’s a model made before catalytic converters so it’ll run good on regular gas.”
the only thing sadder than this is that they managed to survive to the end of their little walk and go home.
In a just society they would have been napalmed and/or turned to ground mince by a large truck.
Do a march on the same route an hour after they finish and say “We are better than them and don’t hate you” do it un masked and see how many people join you.
It would be a shame if Nazis got massacred and noone saw what happened.
Charge them with hate speech.
“Hate speech” isn’t a criminal statute anywhere in America.
Maybe it should be
No, but there’s the “fighting words” doctrine. Depending on the level of targeting of the hate speech, it may not he protected. Let’s use Mike Pence as an example because it was a whole thing 4 years ago.
Saying “Hang Mike Pence” to the air is probably protected. Whereas going to Mike Pence and saying “I’m going to hang you” isn’t.
The weird greyness is that telling someone to hang Mike Pence can also be a crime (e.g. conspiracy to commit murder or disturbing the peace), so the details and context matter.
Basically, if it’s a threat with teeth, it may not be protected. Being offensive is legal. Inciting a riot or threatening or provoking someone into attacking first is not.
For anyone curious.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_in_the_United_States
Oh hell no. Place 2x4s in a place they’ll accidentally walk into them. Like your hands at their eye level with a runneng start.
Trump will pardon them, so there’s gonna be a fuckton more of this shit over the next four years. Likely progressively worse as we go.
Yup.
Things aren’t getting better in America anytime soon. Even if the “pendulum swings”. Pendulum doesn’t matter in a society full of fools and racists. There is no magical reset button every 4-8 years for mistakes of the magnitude we just made as a society.
Buckle up.
Did he pardon anyone who participated in Jan 6?
Not yet but he will. They will form his loyal brown shirts which he will turn into the SS.
Also those court cases had not finished by the time Biden took office so he couldn’t have if he wanted to anyway.
He ran on doing so.
He will.
He doesn’t have to worry about pissing people off now. It’s his 2nd term.
“Party of law and order”.
I’ve read he plans to upon retaking office.
Pardon them for what? Unless their possessing firearms wasn’t in line with the law, or that “physical altercation” mentioned that questioning apparently went nowhere reemerges as a thing then I don’t know what they’d need pardoned for based on the article.
The marching with Nazi shit and spewing whatever hateful bullshit is protected speech, because speech protections in the US are extremely broad.
And that’s before getting into whether or not the hypothetical crime is federal (which he could hypothetically pardon) or state (which he can’t).
Yeah, I was in a rush when writing that, and should have been more thorough in explaining what I meant.
I meant that’s their mentality: these idiots will become increasingly emboldened as Trump takes over, and make the assumption that they can do anything they want because Trump & the Republicans have taken over the Justice system and will allow them to do whatever they want to the “evil libs.” There will be no hate crimes prosecuted (unless against white and/or prominent right-wingers) - at least not on a federal level, but these idiots often don’t really understand that difference (and TBF there effectively may not BE a difference in red states).
Unless they violated a federal crime and are convicted of it, Trump can’t do shit.
I think it’s incorrect to link all the January 6th protestors with actual Neo-Nazis and that sort of hyperbole was part of the reason Democrats were out of touch with how regular people felt. Neo-Nazis are partly increasing because of the memification of racism, giving racism a more viral quality, combined with how fast society is changing and people incorrectly making sense of it through racism.
No one mentioned Jan 6 until you did.
