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    See’s man made cloud due to the action of cold metal ripping through the sky “ZOMG ITS TEH LIBS POISONING MY AIR” jumps in vehicle modified to spew toxic pitch black clouds at the push of a button and drunkenly crashes into the preschool “THIS AIN’T MY FAULT!”

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      In 1996 a cropduster was an American hero. Thirty years later, he’d be arrested for terrorism just doing his job.

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        We learned a lot from the green revolution.

        We should be arresting people for spraying chemicals that cause health issues in farm workers.

        Condensation trails are not caused by spraying harmful chemicals.

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    “I have a problem with people spraying perfume around me sometimes, don’t you have a problem with people spraying things into the atmosphere that really have no type of empirical data, that you just don’t know who they are or what they’re doing?” said Sen. Ileana Garcia, R-Coral Gables, the bill’s sponsor, on Thursday morning.

    Suddenly no longer a climate change denier.

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      The difference being we do know who they are and why they’re doing it, it’s just our leaders aren’t doing enough to stop them because of “The Economy”.

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    Thing that doesn’t happen is now illegal, got it. Glad to see Florida tackling the big problems facing its citizens.

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      I want them to pass this.

      It would be interesting how they would enforce it.

      Would they ban all planes? Or maybe just ignore the law? Or maybe start saying “these are not chemtrails, these are contrails, those are ok”.

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        If the state decides to ignore any kind of court telling them otherwise, then I would imagine Florida would no longer have flyovers from any airline, and any aircraft capable of producing a contrail or wingtip vortex would no longer operate in the state.

        Goodbye florida airports, I guess.

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          Contrails are generated by condensation of water vapor in engine exhaust. They’re not caused by wingtip vortices. All powered aircraft (besides electric ones) will generate contrails under the appropriate conditions. Contrail is in fact a contraction of “condensation trail”.

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            That’s why I specified or wingtip vortex.

            In some situations you can see a trail behind a wingtip that can persist. although doesn’t leave the huge vapor cloud that lingers for hours, I have heard plenty of people conspiracy nuts refer to them as “Chem trails” right along with the actual contrail. Living near an airport, you get all kinds of crazy.

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      Wait till you see what Florida has banned for gay folks on the basis of “things that dont happen”

      I think Canada issued a travel advisory telling their queer citizens not to travel to Florida, due to the high risks

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      I would normally agree with you but… this is legitimately something the constituents want. They are scared of the chem trails. Regardless that they aren’t real. To the voters it looks like the politicians are stepping up and doing what needs to be done.

      It’s kinda terrifying.

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      Conservatives seem to think all contrails are “chemtrails”
      Florida’s tourist economy is going to collapse when no one can fly there unless they’re in a prop plane.
      I’m happy for them though, they’ve really earned it.

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          You could keep flying any plane, but they would be capped at a 20,000ish feet flight ceiling while in Florida airspace. Which would make traffic a lot worse and the flights significantly more expensive.

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        Chemtrails are hardly a political thing, c’mon. Though being uneducated and thinking science is akin to religion is a conservative thing.

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      And crop dusting, ffs. Spraying actual chemicals on our food is totally fine for these people.

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    Alternatively phrased: Florida proposes ban on planes from flying in or over it.

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      That would be some incredible malicious compliance. “We couldn’t make sure our planes didn’t leave ‘chem trails,’ so we just don’t fly to your state anymore.”

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      Cloud seeding is different than contrails. Think 99% of the people in this thread are confusing the two and making ignorant statements. They’re banning the former, not the latter.

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        Either you’re over-estimating the intelligence of the politicians that did this, or underestimating the stupidity of the people who are for the bill. I’m not sure yet which it is.

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          I mean, read the bill yourself. It’s banning cloud seeding. The politicians just lied and made it sound like the bill is going after conspiratorial chemtrails. It’s almost as if no one has read the fucking article with how much disagreement I’ve gotten.

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            Bro, the article says it’s phrased as cloud seeding and that they want to “debunk” chemtrails, but read the rest of the article about how it’s being presented by De Santis and others. The bill is also being sold for the electorate that believes this will ban chemtrails.

            You’re not levitating above the rest of us with your big brain.

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        They’re banning the former thinking they are banning the latter, THAT is the main issue here.

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          Right, but read the whole thread and there are tons who think that the people who crafted the bill also think that. Only a couple of the politicians are going down the chemtrail route and marketing it that way, which is why the bill itself is literally written to talk about geoengineering and cloud seeding and not fucking chemtrails.

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        Excuse me sir we have American educations. It’s rich of you to think we know the difference between former and latter.

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    Everyday I think I’ve heard the stupidest thing come out of the US, and they somehow trump it the very next day. Remarkable.

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    I think this is a really shitty bill, but not for the reasons people are assuming. The actual wording is against cloud seeding, but DeSantis is trying to win over his crazies by implying it’s for “chemtrails.” We’re kind of falling for it too here.

    “Geoengineering and Weather Modification Activities” (SB 56), prohibits the injection, release, or dispersion of a chemical, a chemical compound, a substance or an apparatus into the atmosphere in Florida to affect the temperature, weather, climate or intensity of sunlight. It was OK’d 28–9.

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      prohibits the injection, release, or dispersion of a chemical, a chemical compound, a substance or an apparatus into the atmosphere in Florida to affect the temperature, weather, climate or intensity of sunlight.

      Huh, this makes the internal combustion engine illegal.

      Water is a chemical. Complete combustion of a hydrocarbon produces water, water when dispersed into the atmosphere creates clouds. Clouds affect the temperature, weather, climate and intensity of sunlight. QED any burning of hydrocarbons is illegal.

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        Fuck yeah. I support this bill.

        The sunshine state is finally investing in solar electric airplanes

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        Maybe that’s partly why they proposed getting it outlawed now before hurricane season, now that Mr. Hurricane Nuker is back in office, heh.

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    you might as well go right out and say that having an education higher than a 5th grader should also be banned.

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    This is what they’re doing? Friggin’ idiots! Why don’t they tackle the real problems?!

    It is still perfectly legal to be a werewolf!