A shroom community was removed from lemmy.world as it was considered “illegal” content by the admins. The logic behind this is boggling, to say the least.
Marijuana is considered an illegal substance in some states in the US and is still federally illegal. /c/trees should be banned, correct?
Clown pictures of Putin are absolutely considered illegal in Russia, so that should require and immediate ban.
Freedom of speech can also be considered illegal in some places.
Incest is considered illegal so that should automatically trigger a ban on all incest porn, real or not. Hell, porn is universally taboo, so that shouldn’t have any place on this instance, I guess.
You see where I am going with this? Rule 1 is a catch-all and needs clarification. Simply saying something is illegal is not quite enough. Owning and sharing pictures of shrooms is not illegal. Trading spores or mycelium is generally not illegal either.
This is not about me being salty (which I am) about the community being removed and forced to relocate. It’s the odd bias that was applied to justify its removal.
Please note that I said fix Rule 1, not remove it. There are some really bad things on the internet that shouldn’t use lemmy as a safe haven.
The piracy instance needs to be reinstated too. The admins of this community make Reddit look good.
A shroom community? That’s disgusting, where?
I think it’s [email protected] now
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Slow down, Mac…
I groan every time this joke gets copied and pasted. It’s pretty pathetic.
It’s less a joke and more a way to ask for urls with plausible deniability
Y’all could set up on psychedelia.ink instead: “A Lemmy instance for all things psychedelia or psychedelia-adjacent.”
There may be other appropriate specialized instances as well, that was just the first one that I noticed.
The Fdiverse already seems to be unraveling.
I always thought the model was flawed. Content from other instances should only be viewable and not copied to all instances.
Like banning pics n photos of MUSHROOMS whether psychedelic or not is FUCKING BAZAAR to me … I don’t get it… Are amanita mascaria banned, how about blue meanies , or is it just cubes ? Banning nature / biology / science(mycology) is idiotic
Is there magazines about alcohol, vaping and or tobacco ?
Cause I assure You (Lemmy) shrooms been consumed by humans for far longer then any substances that You allow discussions over, and it’s one of those organic substances that’s more good than bad (obviously it’s not for everyone) but it’s a great 😃👍 substance… "
“several antibiotics have already been isolated from various mushrooms and microfungi (including penicillin and griseofulvin, which are isolated from microfungi)”
Are you gonna ban the discussion over antibiotics next ?
/SMH
We have to admin the admins.
It really doesn’t matter how hard you want to push back on these rules. If the servers for the instance you’re complaining about are there to protect them against laws, granted, misguided laws. For the sake of the longevity of the instance, then, so be it, you have the freedom to take a walk and find a better spot to have a picnic. That’s the benefit of a federated universe.
It matters if we stop donating to them. If that happens, which it could since a lot of people are quite mad at them it would be detrimental to them. I’m all for it to be honest, people shouldn’t donate to someone they dislike or view as crooked.
Why would you give money so to an instance you don’t use. You don’t even have to support the original Lemmy people if you don’t like their politics you can just use kbin
Isn’t it kind of the point of federated communities? Admins of one particular instance can set whatever arbitrary rules they see fit and good for the instance they operate, and in turn everyone else can organise their own instance with their own rules.
I absolutely can understand how an admin based in US doesn’t want to answer the questions like “what are all this talks about controlled substances on your server”Just want to also point out that lemmy.world is already a huge instance and these communities would be better if they were spread out to more instances
Yes. I don’t see why this community cannot move to an instance hosted in a jurisdiction where this is legal.
Gonna be that guy. But just because something is legal in one place doesn’t mean it is legal where the instance/owner is located. And the owner is protecting their own skin, I would do the same. Can also be realted to the host.
So as others have mentioned, it’s better to find an instance welcoming this kind of content.
Yes. I don’t see why this community cannot move to an instance hosted in a jurisdiction where this is legal.
Agreed about the need for clarity. There’s probably nothing that isn’t illegal somewhere. So what’s the standard here?
The problem is you’re never going to control how people use Lemmy the internet treats censorship as if it were damage and routes around it.
The only option is to abide the laws of local jurisdiction. No amount of reddit protesting is going to work in this case. You’re either going to enjoy Lemmy.world or it won’t be your cup of tea and you’ll find another instance. The question is what will it take to boil your frog.
I bought psilocybin mushrooms legally in Oakland, CA, fwiw. Like a month ago.
Wow. And I mean the whole world has the same laws as bumfuck Idaho, I mean Oakland. This is such an attack on your human rights by these admins right? 🙄
No. I’m saying that laws apply in some places and not in others. As an Oaklander, there’s nothing wrong with these conversations. Should a community be removed if they violate a law in Pakistan but not the rest of the world. Your comment is laughable.
Yes they should if the admins feel that it may cause them legal troubles. That’s the WHOLE point.
Are you seriously so dense and entitled that you think others should carry the risk just so you can post whatever the fuck you want?
I agree, it needs to be more clear about what would be removed.
The illegal/legal content should be based on instance location.
I’m agreeing with the mods, if we gonna go the weed vs shrooms route.
Whats the worst that can happen on a bad trip on either of them
E: for anyone downvoting, I’ve never heard of someone walking from a rooftop because of a bad weed or edible trip