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Basically declaring that they don’t allow free speech.
“Hey, you have been liking things we disagree with and we need an echo chamber here, align with us or fuck off. Sincerely, the money hungry bitches of the internet! Also heil daddy musk!”
Of course they don’t. They banned me 3 years ago for saying that if you have the chance, you should always punch a Nazi.
They permabanned two of my accounts during the election last year, just because I said I didn’t care when Trump said Liz Cheney should be shot. She’s a warmonger who’s called for violence against millions of innocent people. Not gonna clutch my pearls when anyone (even Trump) threatens her.
Excuse me? If someone says they want a genocide you have to wait until they take over, only then are you allowed to support violence.
I’m against violence, I think that reasonable and even somewhat unreasonable people should be talked with. But if someone says “fuck you I will kill you” you should have the right to punch them, it is the same as self defence, because next time they will kill you.
I know. The two reactions when I tell people about that are usually either rage or amusement. I’m here now, so fuck Reddit.
Basically declaring that they don’t allow free speech.
It’s a privately owned platform. You never have an assurance of free speech on any of those, and on Reddit, the rot set in years ago.
There is a big jump from “we are a private company and we have internal rules” to “we are a private company and our internal rules that directly go against human rights”
Based on what I read in the posted article, everyone is making a big leap here. Of course I expect you all to be right in the end based on Reddit being a shitshow, but we don’t know what the content they are referring to is exactly.
For all we know, they are only referring to stuff like human trafficking or child porn. The statement is vague.
To be clear, they’re talking about banning right wing people. Reddit is one of the most liberal platforms you will find.
You can’t even talk economics on Reddit without being downvoted to fuck, or banned.
I am a centrist, and I routinely had posts removed and got banned from communities for saying things from actual textbooks taught currently in universities.
No one is attacking the free speech of the left unless it’s radical and advocating for physical harm.
Nobody elected the mods or the admins. And the management has shown itself to be, at least, MAGA-adjacent.
I once got banned for “vote brigading” on Reddit because I upvoted a crosspost that was deleted later, so this comes as no surprise. They have been monitoring upvotes and downvotes since forever.
Wtf is “vote brigading”?
When one community goes in mass to affect the votes in another. E.g someone is doing a poll/vote intended to be private or limited to a certain group/community, and you link that to from somewhere else with the hope, or sometimes direct instructions to go vote on it in a certain way.
That’s why reddit has cross-posts and the np (no participation, disables voting in the linked content) subdomain that try to keep the votes separated.
I don’t think i ever came across cross posted content where up/down voting was not allowed 🤔
If you cross-post, that sub gets it’s own up/downvote count. You would have to open the link and go to the original post to see and affect them, so it already discourages brigading.
NP is when I link you directly to somewhere, e.g https://np.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/1j4scuu/barbie_doll/ won’t have voting even if you are logged in, not on the post or the comments.
Yeah what the heck is that?
Agreeing with something the owners don’t like.
Well that’s just screwed up.
I got perma banned after i joined NAFO as a mod 2 bannes for petty reasons and then the third and final ban. Always waited for the other bans to time out
“reddit will warn users who repeatedly upvote calls for a violent revolution against the billionaire class and the fascist neo feudalist militarized police state enforced wage slavery and rent till death economics they have created to benefit their endless growth driven profits while ignoring upvotes of content that praise violence against leftists, women and other marginalized leftist aligning groups and ideologies”
There, FTFY
after what they saw with luigi, and trying to suppress all news about it
They are desperay obvious and its cringe. They were in full blast damage control censorship mode even before december 4th. I was VPN banned last summer just for saying that occupied indigenous people have a right to resist occupation by any means necessary as per international law in regards to palestine and IsNoTreal. So far ive jot been able to evade the ban even with a vpn. Wall street military and prison industry profiteers have become too confident and comfortable.
They ban for literally anything probably because their Reddit moderation is handled by AI. The simple fact that many reports = certain ban regardless of behavior is reason enough not to be in that cesspool
their Reddit moderation is handled by AI
They also have a number of fascist mods who abuse their authority to arbitrarily ban anyone saying something they don’t like.
Oh for sure! I got banned for “inciting violence” when I called desantis “a wanna be fascist in fake cowboy boots” and it got spam reported by conservative snowflakes. There is literally no staying unbanned on Reddit if you have any form of moral compass or social awareness
Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.
One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.
Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.
So let’s not pretend that it’s only big bad reddit doing this.
Vegan cat food? What the frak, poor cats.
its sickening how they pretend to care about animals and nature by being vegan yet its just egotripping and blatant animal abuse. If they actually care about animals they should be the first ones denouncing vegan cat food.
It’s already bad enough that a lot of dry cat food in the market has grain (and the high cost of grainless alternatives) to even considering giving vegan food to a cat pffff.
Dry food is the worst between their diabetes risk and CKD risk.
Its decentalised nature doesn’t get you removed from the whole network though unlike Reddit. You can always interact with other instances.
Plus side here is that people can move to another instance and start commenting right away as opposed to being shadow banned for a period in certain subs and having to build up enough karma to not automatically have every comment flagged.
People aren’t stuck to the policies of instances they don’t agree with whether it be reasons for bans or what instances are blocked or whitelisted.
at least here its more easy to just let them stew with eachother or for more sensible part of that community to just break off. in reddit its the site owner who ultimately decided how the site goes, here its the community itself. Though if majority of some community decides to just stick with some awful group, its quite bad for the minority that doesnt like the awfullness. But at least that is problem of our own making instead of what something some rich asshole decided and thus we can solve it ourselves too if we really want to. There is no way to unshittify reddit ever.
It’s way easier to do with Lemmy compared to Reddit. Because of its federated design, it’s trivial to subscribe to a stream of all activity in a community (posts, comments, upvotes, downvotes, moderation actions, etc) and do things when particular actions happen. Unlike Reddit, on Lemmy you can get a list of who upvoted or downvoted a post or comment.
Which I don’t have a problem with. Having vastly different moderation policies can create a walled garden, but there are instances where a walled garden is just preferable. See how askhistorians was handled. It’s better to have a platform that you can shape to your needs and the potential needs of your users. If it’s truly useless, then nobody would use it
Yes, Lemmyverse will fragment, so it’s important to choose sufficiently permissive instances or even run your own.
I feel like there’s a difference between various moderators power-tripping on their own little fiefdoms, and a site wide policy.
A little, sure, but from my point of view (which you are happy to disagree with), very little.
Personally I am a big Star Trek fan. I was stoked to see there is an actual dedicated Lemmy server for it, with many communities focused around everything Star Trek. But I disagree with their admin/moderation so much I had to change my account to another server. At some point ended up blocking the whole instance because I just cannot keep myself to just reading what others are posting.
So even if I can use another server, I cannot use those communities. Similar if I were a vegan and would not agree with what some of the more extreme users are posting.
There are not many active alternatives for these communities on Lemmy.
Discovery is shit.
cant believe that show went on five seasons, and it got worst every season too, and the obvious objective kurtzman was evident by season 4(female leads were the only sex left on the cast), the only likable characther, was michelle yeohs performance(you can see the acting is better than the others). Picard also was like that(the show couldve been good if done right, but picard(patrick stewart) seemed too low energy for the show.
Never seen but just cause I am in edgy mood today: discovery is utter garbage. They should pay hefty health insurance to anyone who has seen it to cover therapy costs and eye surgery.
It’s so garbage that the dump trucks drivers get confused and arrive at people living rooms if they turn it on.
The only fitting spot for it is inside the latrine but wash it out as carefully after putting this shitty thing down the drain as if it was an especially nasty hangover poop
That was quite pleasurable to write
same here, never saw the series, just enough of the clips to know the seasons go through obvious cycle, evident of many other people posted, a big convoluted “danger” that ends up in the last episode of a season which is a letdown. rinse and repeat, also kurtzmans go-to for ignoring the criticisms by fans of previous seasons, by dropping the arc of the last season entirely, additionally. both picard and STD have lifted material they read on memory alpha and memory beta(non canon) wiki, which the NOVELS are part of.
I don’t know but I know that hating on franchises isn’t worth my effort nowadays aside from some short dopamine burst now and then. I have learned with Last Jedi that panta rhei and all, I can always have my own head canon which is mostly EU and TCW 2008 and maybe some other thing I like.
It’s enough to just make new account every couple months
It’s a good practice anyway. Fresh start every month feels good. Privacy is much better this way on such transparent site as Lemmy. You reset any mutes/bans/fame you might have acquired. It’s win-win
+It’s not like Lemmy has some kind of insane profile customisation fluff or account bound rewards
Also remember to have a unique username for each site for best doxx protection. I use this Osint site sometimes for lulz and there are people who have same PayPal id (with real name shown) as their Lemmy account name lol. Lemmy may be tame but if you browse any deep chan sites opsec is of paramount and admins are hostile actors deep down there too that WILL post your data. Here I kinda trust admins just a little so that accidental true IP reveal seems like no big deal.
However one day you may sign up to the wrong instance or instance may change hands and someone may post your data to some chan like alt right pit. This is a danger of entrusting your account to small private operators that are complete strangers with unknown motivations
Never ever use your true email on Lemmy
See my other comment. That is not really the solution since you will simply get banned again after a while, depending on how much you interact there. Unless admin/moderation changes, making a new account just gives you a bit of extra time using those communities.
The motives behind the actions of these groups are vastly different though. A corporation silencing anti-establishment speech is not equivalent to lemmy moderators abusing authority in their micro-feifdoms. Still frustrating of course but the reasons and effects are quite different
True, can’t argue with that. I am maybe a bit too pragmatic when I say, I don’t care about the difference because the outcome for me as a user is the same.
gross, even STD is being defended here, who is paying for these shills. nutrek is such a badly written/show franchise right now.
Does this happen on lemmy.world?
Same shit happens here and you know if. Anyone with any user count is heavily moderating violence.
This is actually what got me to swap as it reminded me some content will be banned, and so the social media I’ve had for over a decade and thought was going to be the only classic site to retain freedom of speech and expression had proven itself that they will not be afraid to start taking baby steps towards controlling and censoring media. And in the contents section of this post was a person spreading the news of this alternative. So here I am.
if that is your primary motivation, i have bad news for you… you might have to move on. here you will get bans for downvoting “the wrong” comment or post as well.
I remember Reddit. I used to like it there.
Citizen, you have been found guilty of wrong think!
Please report for reeducation
Thought police will be dispatched.
John Spartan, you are fined one credit for violating the upvote morality statute.
Just keep in mind: your upvotes on Lemmy are visible to anybody who runs a Lemmy instance.
God help us if Elon Musk figures out how to run one.
I’m probably ending up in a concentration camp anyways, might as well vent while I can… 🙃
I will save him the effort. I happily upvote things that contain the words Luigi and Elon.
Or just open the thread on an mbin instance. Here’s everyone that upvoted this thread.
Edit: Downvotes (reduces) are less exposed, but as you said, someone can just run a fedi instance that exposes them to everyone.
Piefed upvotes are private though
I think all reactions should be exposed.
He can see me upvote people wanting to kill him.
You just need to make a new account every couple of months
Though you cannot see votes coming from a blocked instance. (If your instance ever blocked another instance. Not valid for self hosted.)
Everybody upvote Luigi content! Get banned! Leave reddit! Reddit crumbles! Fuck reddit! Go Luigi! Lemmy grows! Centralized social media dies! I eat a burrito. That last one wasn’t really on topic, but it’s happening anyways! I’m hungry.
Already got permabanned for saying he was justified, I like it better here anyway
I got banned but their site is so shit the links to the message you got banned for never work. Been banned/warned enough times it’s not a one off either.
i pointed out the censoring of luigi news in dec, and people actually believed that wasnt happening, and having all that trump rage post slop thats been posting in order to astroturf luigi news.
Burrito pilled Lemmy maxing
I’ve been banned twice in the past 30 days.
I got permabanned a couple weeks ago for saying “the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi”
Like, why are you defending Nazis, spez? Huh?
It solidified Lemmy as my permanent reddit replacement. No ragrets.
I got permabanned like two years ago for quoting “eat the rich” by Aerosmith. Also suggesting we should eat the rich. Several times. They also permabanned everyone on my wifi. I did the entire household a service.
You got IP banned, damn.
I use 4G for my home internet, my IP address changes so frequently. Always thought IP bans were kinda dumb, certainly permanent ones. Maybe throw a week long one on so they don’t immediately create a new account but past that their address has almost certainly changed.
I got permabanned for reporting hateful comments on a r/conservative post that was glorifying Nazis a few weeks ago. No warning. Been on Reddit for over a decade without causing any problems. Sounds like Reddit as a corporation has picked a side
same thing happened to me, but on a different sub. “they said report abuse is not allowed” so i was temp ban on a technology sub, funny enough. and it just triggered a full sitewide ban for all my other accts with little warning.(im pretty sure the temp suspension was going to get perma banned down the line, because i heard other used got banned sitewide after thier temp ban ended for no reason at all, which was caused by an error on thier part which they refused to do anything.) basically if you been temp banned the filters on subs dont reset so it detects you as a ban evader if you comment on the sub again, even if you are in the clear.
alSO IF the mod doesnt like you reporting someone they will lecture you and ban you for “report abuse”.
i found out mods do not want to deal with large query of “reports” from users so they get lazy and they autoban, or ban people just to not have to do anything about the person being reported. in case the accts gets a repeal, they will make an excuse up to admins why they banned someone.
They picked a side when they let a bunch of fash shit slide on T_D in the run up to 2016. No surprise though-- tech bros rarely have a working moral compass
and they allow r/conservative constantly hit the front page now, when it almost never did prior to the election.,
And it’s so much worse now with how many sub comments and posts that sub has. It’s painfully obvious they’ve replaced even the most devout users with autogenerated agenda posts. That place is some of the most obvious propaganda I’ve seen on the internet
I got banned a few weeks back for an anti-trump post.
That account was 11 years old and I was very active over those years. But nope. Don’t talk smack about the orange god.
It solidified Lemmy as my permanent reddit replacement. No ragrets.
100% agree
reddit has been sliding right wing for a while, 90% of the posts are about trump, and not really the important things hes doing behind the scenes, just “reaction posts” of trumps gaffes. reddit is also sustaining X social media too with thier posts.
5 of my accts were banned last month, all at once. one got temp suspended, and a triggered a sitewide ban for the others for some "reason. theres no reason to ban all others when it was just temp suspended. but they went extra out of thier way(any old and new accts that have years of seperation between a subreddit ban(if they dint get banned immediately after getting sub banned) they banned accounts.
ex, i had 2 unused accts 5+years, and 1 recent temp suspension(then they look at other accts you were per banned from a subreddit in, and banned all of them). i had also a couple of unused throwaways that i started using from years ago(last month), and a semi-new acct that i use just in case of a ban that i dint use for 90days. and then 1 acct strictly used for 1 subreddit.
only 1 survived but its still flagged by reddit, but have no ban on it right now. creating mroe than 1 acct just puts people at risk of getting banned.
Same. I used Reddit for 12 years. Got perma-banned last year for saying things about Israel that people didn’t like, I guess.
Moved to lemmy.
The thing is said last summer that got me permabanned was “international law states that occupied indigenous populations have a right to resist occupation and fight back by any means possible” reddit has an aversion to facts as do all conservatives and their fellow neo liberal boot lickers
If it’s anything but fasc or bootlicker content, they’ve been trying to ban it.
i said something about israel on worldnews at the start of the gaza conflict, site wide suspension for 7 days, i largely abandoned that acct, and went witha throwaway(and mostly avoided that sub). then i was banned last month with the throwaway triggered a multi-ban.
What’s in your burrito? My favorite is adobada.
I like beans in mine.
Between his username, your username, and the topic at hand, I don’t like where this is headed…
Burrito in, burrito out.
Lengua
I agree. And now want to be your friend.
Don’t forget to leave bad review of reddit app and encourage others to move to lemmy in the review.
Note that you actually need to review the app itself, not reddit. When I left a negative review about the whole reddit API mess, the review was removed and I was barred from leaving more reviews
wow thanks for that, adjust my bad reviews.
Well that’s just straight up fucking bonkers.
Any more bonkers than anything else on Reddit since the exodus? Lol
not surprising, on another site/forum where reddit users got banned for upvoting in attempt to mimic human activity on reddit to promote thier of accts later down the line, thats whats been happening. they are using some technical tricks trying to get around these bans, but reddit is quickly closing those gaps, thats why thier bans have been so aggressive lately. they overmoderate, and overbanned recently.
It’s okay, we’ll all be able to go back to Digg soon.
Slashdot too?
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