There are a lot of GOP-controller legislatures in the USA pushing through so-called “child protection” laws, but there’s a toll in the form of impacting people’s rights and data privacy. Most of these bills involve requiring adults to upload a copy of their photo ID.

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    None of these politcians who push for all those “protect the children” laws actually gives a shit about child safety. The only thing that such laws mange to do is restrict freedom of speech and expression for everyone including children.

    If you are a careless parent, then no law is going prevent your kids from watching porn.

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    Its not the governments job to make up for absent parenting.

    If you dont want your kids seeing things or doing shit online, its your job to monitor them and talk to them about it.

    Stop throwing your kids a tablet and expecting that to be the fuckin parent.

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    The government has way too much influence over children already. Governments could do so much for children that would actually benefit them (better education, free lunch at school, better public libraries, ensure no kids are starving because of poor parents, no wars in foreign countries, whatever) but instead they use children to increase their control over people.

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    Considering these are Republican states, they’re just going to define Wikipedia articles about gender dysphoria as pornographic lol

    Think carefully and double check before you ever agree with a Republican about anything.

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      This is literally the goal. They are using porn as a trojan horse because they know nobody is going to stand up and fight them on letting children see porn

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      Think carefully and double check before you ever agree with a Republican politician about anything.

      FTFY

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        I guess, but like, there’s only one party that wants me in a concentration conversion therapy camp for being trans.

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            Sure, and I’m not saying both parties don’t want to surveil and control the population, but as you might be able to understand I’m a bit more focused on the Party that has all but made extermination of people like me the Party platform.

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              I’ve never heard anyone call for the extermination of queer communists (or whatever category you’re referring to).

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                I’m trans. If they simply take away my access to gender affirming care they’re as good as murdering me, because I won’t last long.

                Furthermore, they believe being trans is a mental illness and that we’re all groomers and rapists. It’s not much of a logical leap for them to then declare that they’re “hospitalizing us” because we present a threat to ourselves and to public safety. They already call gender affirming care “self mutilation” and they actually believe that it’s contagious and making their children trans. You’re blind if you can’t see where that’s going.

                Me being a communist just gives them a reason to shoot me when we start WW3 with China lol

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                  @queermunist @intensely_human
                  Будет “третья мировая война” - нам всем не жить.
                  В любом случае, фашизм только набирает скорость.
                  И он везде - национальный или гендерный, уже всё равно.
                  Удачи, брат или сестра.

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          That doesn’t make the rest automatically trustworthy. Just not genocidal. Though I tend to agree with Progressives and Socialist Dems or Socialists more often than not. Regular, middle of the road Dems, not as much.

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            Not genocidal eh? Ask a Democrat how many people they think Earth can support long term, then subtract that from Earth’s current population. Your answer is how many people they, at some level, believe need to be gone.

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        All politiicans should be listened to with scepticism, but the Republicans have gone to full on lies, alternative truths, fraud, grifting and fascism. It’s not a both sides issue.

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    The GOP is also the party of the chronically ill and the criminally insane. They just don’t want to admit that they want China’s great firewall style world wide web after wasting millions of dollars going after TikTok.

    Once again all the anti China propoganda was projection coming from inside the house.

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    Children get their own internet. If they get in adult internet, then they get juvenile detention and a criminal file, their parents are arrested for child endangerment and child services take over.

    And anyone complaining about what is on the internet gets an helicopter ride to the deep sea from 10’000 feet.

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        Some extremely restrictive AI and all children provided inputs would not be visible without heavy filtering and anonymization. In fact children’s general ability to express themselves in this children internet would be massively curtailed.

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    Exclusively used for fascism and propaganda. If it’s “for the children” it’s usually not and just propaganda to push more fascism. If kids want to lie and click the “I am 18” button despite not being 18, literally who cares lol. Before the internet, kids would steal nude magazines. Also that’s how they discover things about themselves instead of being completely left in the dark until 18. Should definitely still keep the requirement of clicking that button, but more so for plausible deniability on the website’s side. It’s only religious extremists that consider this stuff bad.

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    I thought we already had a flawless system for this where you put in your birthday.

    Where are all my Jan 1 1970 friends at?

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    These bills are intended to make it harder for anyone to look at porn online. There are plenty of tools parents can employ to make it harder for their own kids to see porn – that’s where the responsibility belongs.

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    Usually when politicians says “to protect children”, it’s not about children.

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      When politicians talk about protecting children they’re really talking about dismantling the nuclear family.

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    If I didn’t want my kids looking at porn online, I already have plenty of things to prevent them from doing so.

    Not giving them access to a device without supervision. Using firewall filters. Child-mode browser/OS settings.

    We don’t need more regulation for this. Parents just need to get off their ass and do their own parenting. But these bills aren’t actually designed to protect children. They’re designed to gain access to adults’ personal info and will be used more for oppression than safety.

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        I’m a conservative but I’d never be caught dead calling myself a Republican.

        Republicans are corrupt, despicable, and stupid. Democrats are corrupt, naive, and arrogant.

        I really wish we had runoff voting, so that the American ecosystem could move away from two party balanced dominance.

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          Oh, it’s fine. They make sure it’s always convenient to rile up their base with lies, hatred, and culture-war nonsense…

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    I’m against it. Parents should be helping their children go online go submit homework or whatever they need to do. You cannot babyproof the internet the same way you cannot babyproof society. Parents in the 90s understood this well. Parents in the 20s do not understand this.

    Build safer websites for kids. Don’t degrade adult spaces, because the 4chans and fox newses will always exist, but will take down the good sites as collateral.

    The internet will always be an open forum of advertisements, ideas, arguing, and little niches of helpful information and nerds.

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    You cannot stop kids from looking at porn. Doesn’t matter how hard you try, they will find a way around it. This is about collecting a database of porn preferences to probably use as blackmail.

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    I think it has nothing to do with children. It is about requiring ID registration for online services so that identities can be tracked. Every time authoritarians want to push another mechanism of control it’s always “about the children”.

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      Ultimately, I agree with you and that’s why I’m against these laws, but I really do wish there was a good way to do it anonymously. Porn is not good for kids and it’s pretty much impossible to keep them away from it without drastic measures that are more harmful than porn.

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        Not sure if it’s actually possible given how far outside out evolutionary context internet porn is, but the correct solution here would be to train your kids to deal with the temptation of dopaminergic reinforcement buttons.

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          As a population, that isn’t a realistic course of action. It won’t work for even most parents that care to try.

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        What if the block is more harmful than just letting curious kids sneak a peek at porn sites? If all the legitimate places to get porn block anyone without ID then a lot of those prove will seek out unregulated places - they’re going to see far worse things and be in communication with potentially very dangerous people.

        And of course the next step would be to totally limit any access to the internet to stamp out any unregulated communication and file sharing thus giving the corporations a total monopoly on the internet… It’s not about protecting kids it’s about controlling all of us.