• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    Cool. I’m still calling you ‘you’ and ‘they’ because that’s how English works.

    They are gender-neutral words.

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      26 days ago

      That’s the correct answer. This “drag” business has to do with this individuals kink of sex with dragons, as alluded to in their bio. I’m not kink shaming, but it is bad form to force others to participate in your kink without consent, even in a nonsexual context. Honestly, I’m not entirely sure they aren’t a troll.

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      Drag doesn’t want to be referred to gender neutrally. Drag wants drag’s gender affirmed. It isn’t hard. You’re going to all this effort to switch between “you”, “they”, and “them” based on complicated grammatical context rules, when you could just use a single pronoun in all cases. You’re going to all this effort to inflect pronouns that drag doesn’t want. Drag just wants you to take it easy and use a single pronoun. Why make things hard for yourself just so you can make them hard for drag too?

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        26 days ago

        You may not want gender-neutral terms to apply to you, but they do. That’s just a simple fact.

        And it isn’t hard for me to use a gender-neutral pronoun. It’s quite easy.

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          26 days ago

          Let drag rephrase. What exactly do you gain by refusing to refer to a trans person the way that trans person wants to be referred? A hypothetical moral high ground in a semantic disagreement? Is the point just that you want to be right in the argument?

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            I refer to everyone with “they” and “you” regardless of their gender because they are gender-neutral phrases. They apply to trans people and cis people equally, which is how I treat all people. Equally.

            You are not more special than everyone else on the planet whether you want to be or not.

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              26 days ago

              Oh, you think having gendered pronouns is a form of privilege? You want to deny drag the privilege of having identity based pronouns? You perceive the issue as a matter of justice, and you think drag needs to be taken down a peg for having pronouns?

              I refer to everyone with “they”

              Also, drag thinks you should edit the following comments from within the past hour to better align with your moral principles:

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                I think you expecting no one to use a non-gendered pronoun with you is a privilege you are not going to be afforded.

                This is very simple:

                Me: You/They
                You: You/They
                Elliot Page: You/They
                Donald Trump: You/They
                Lavene Cox: You/They

                All 8 billion plus homo sapiens on this planet: You/They

                Regardless of their gender.

                You are not special. I get that you want to be special, but you aren’t.

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                  Thank you for being honest with drag and confirming drag’s hypothesis from drag’s last comment. Drag thinks drag understands your motivations for refusing to use drag’s pronouns now. And drag is very glad to have helped you in your crusade to end all gendered pronouns by informing you of the gendered pronouns you used in the last hour, so you can edit them and maintain your principles. Drag hopes you’re able to maintain this standard you’ve set for yourself from now on.

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                    26 days ago

                    Feel free to point out an occasion when I have not used this standard in the past. My comment history is there for all to see. Unless I know someone’s gender, I try to use ‘they.’

                    Maybe don’t assume you know someone’s motivations or that they are trying to attack you next time.