• 100_kg_90_de_belin @feddit.it
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    if you need a school you’ve already lost (Elon Musk)

    Yet he’s the richest man on Earth.

    He’a the best argument against capitalism as a meritocratic system.

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      Because somehow education includes gender and social studies.

      Imagine if they got educated in something useful instead. We need better batteries, so you’d think people would want to educate themselves about the research of batteries? Or literally any other STEM-field that might bring something useful and practical out of it.

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        We don’t need better batteries. We need a radical reform of our approach to public transportation, but your daddy Elon sabotaged railways with his Hyperloop vaporware and remote working with his yuppie-like 80-hours-a-week-in-the-office policy.

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          Is that some reference to my nick? I had this nick since before Tesla Motors existed, because i like scientists. If you can surgically remove yourself from your own ass you might understand which scientist it refers to.

          Who said I have anything against public transportation? I’m from Sweden. We have it covered for now, but we need serious investment in our infrastructure, especially for maintaining our railways.

          I don’t care for Musk in the slightest, he has shown that he is a tool of the highest caliber. I just know that when the waters start to rise, i’d rather have another welder, engineer, plumber rather than an English major or gender consultant.

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            All those categories aren’t going to help people communicate properly, better or deal with the glass ceiling in companies, all things that contribute to well-being and happiness. I’m a technical translator specialized in automotive texts. So, I’m bridging the gap between STEM and the humanities, you’re one of those tools who doesn’t see any value in the humanities.

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            🤓 I’m a real man and I love science and real men think about gender all the time. It’s scientifically proven that people are only worth what you can do for me. 🤓

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              Nice projection there. I hope you losers enjoy Trump, cause you deserve the stupidity of him.

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          Hardly. I’m just unable to sympathize with the people who complain about “luxury-issues” just because they take our current infrastructure for granted.

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        Understanding peoples behaviors makes for better team cooperation. Humans are social creatures, our strength is not individual inteligence but the collective intelligence.

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              Yes? I’m not sure i understand your point.

              I’m refering to the endless number of people, articles and videos saying that college educated people cant even get an interview for a job, let alone a steady employment due to their CHOICE of education. My first and very reasonable question barely gets answered is: “Well, what did they study?”

              Turns out, mostly un-employable things like archeology, English/french literature, gender studies, communicator etc.

              That being said, i certainly don’t feel that the more easily employable degrees necessarily bring any value to their communities. I dont know about the US, but in Sweden the most popular degree for youths today are economist. Simply because that’s the only way they feel that they will be able to earn enough money to not work anymore. Whilst i empathize with them, it doesn’t really bode well for the future if the educated people overwhelmingly work to enrich themselves.

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        Wow your message was delivered poorly, but there is a core concept hidden within it that I do agree with. Schools need to focus more on critical thinking skills rather than any particular topic. Because those can be applied to anything.

        Ever since standardized testing rolled around school has become more about teaching kids to memorize something and to not try if they don’t know and just move on rather than allowing them to get something wrong but engage in critical thinking.

        Instead of memorizing random formulas in math class that you may or may not use in your daily life especially now that it’s literally guaranteed that there’s 15 calculators within 5 ft of you at all times including one in your pocket. It would be more useful to teach specific types of math that encourage critical thinking like say ROI calculations, something that literally everyone can and should be using in their daily lives for even just basic shopping but virtually nobody knows what that even means.

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          That’s what you got out of his comment? It seemed to be that he was promoting a job training curriculum rather than education.

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            No that’s what I turned it into, the core part that I agreed with was that how we educate needs to change. I then took that and moved it to my concept on critical thinking skills being the most important thing

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    An educated citizenry is required for a well functioning democracy that benefits that citizenry. That is not in the interest of republican politicians and their benefactors.

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        Did Democrats start pushing to defund public schools and offer “vouchers”? I must have missed that.

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          No, Democrats being ineffectual corporate stooges for 50 years is what gave Trump the opportunity to win.

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            That definitely justifies people not stopping a fascist from getting elected. It’s not like he said he would be a dictator out loud or anything, am I right?

            Jesus Fucking Christ… it should not be the job of any political party to have to tell people to not let the fascist dictator win.

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              I mean, you can say that but it’s clearly not reflective of reality so what’s the point in maintaining that kind of thinking? Fascism doesn’t scare people the way you think it should which means your view on it is the outlier, not theirs.

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                Then maybe blame the people who aren’t scared of fascism for allowing a fascist to get elected and not expect a political party to teach them basic fucking history.

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                  Politics isn’t about history or knowledge. It’s about popularity and perception. You should know that by now. Democrats are perceived to be ineffectual and their policy positions are poorly communicated at best. Republicans have simple messaging and they respond to their voters. You can disagree all you like with what they’re saying but it doesn’t mean that their voters are suddenly going to start sharing your values. They aren’t afraid of fascists or fascist rhetoric no matter how many different ways you come up with to insist that they should be.

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      Also the beauty of H1B visa people is that because they have to leave the country (or find another job) in 30 days in the even that they get fired, it means they are perfect for assholes like that billionaire. “Agree to do this or go back to that shit hole”

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        I sort of remember for Trump’s first term, one of his campaign promises was to set a salary minimum for H1B workers. Out of a thoroughly insane agenda, that was the one policy I liked, because it returned that program to its intent - hiring specialized experts that can’t be found here.

        Of course, he didn’t follow through and do it.

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      It’s not even that. It makes people less blindly compliant to authority, and that’s absolutely unacceptable to Republicans.

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    Isn’t muskrat worth like 400bill? He could put 200,000 kids through college all 4 years at 50k/year (which many schools fall under mind you but let’s be conservative).

    He’d have 300bill left.

    Edit: lol he’s worth 486bill so he could do the above and be worth 386bill more or less assuming literally no exceptions to 50k a year. He could probably pit half million through for that with minimal effort.

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      Is my math wrong? I don’t see how, in your scenario, it would cost him 100 billion. It wouldn’t even cost him 1 billion. 200k (students) x $50k/year x 4 years = $40 million.

      Edit: Ok yeah my math is wrong but still not that wrong. It’s $40 billion. (That’s what I get trying to do the Calc in my head). Still not $100 billion though. He could put 500k kids through school in your scenario for it to cost him 100 billion.

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        That’s what I got, too. The person you’re responding to seems to have mixed up orders of magnitude. Like I get it, 400m is still unfathomably wealthy, but he has a thousand times that.

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    They want what’s best for them, not what’s best for us. Cheap, loyal labor from countries worse, off than ours is ideal.

    Let the Americans eat paste.

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    And we hate immigrants, but we need all these H1B visas because we don’t want to educate our own citizens to do the jobs that support the middle class. Then we will scapegoat those people and accuse them of being the problem.

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    Fash already control nearly every aspect of the indoctrination system: nationalism, capitalism, racism, patriarchy, etc.